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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Fox News just reported that traffic was at a standstill when the bridge collapsed with traffic bumper to bumper.

Here’s my guess at what happened. At rush hour with traffic stopped, the density of cars was far greater than the bridge could support. Probably was designed for something like that but with the accumulated metal fatigue and corrosion over the years, a structural member gave way and the rest collapsed like dominos. Just my guess.


239 posted on 08/01/2007 5:04:05 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: DugwayDuke

That’s what it appears to be. Nothing insidious.


246 posted on 08/01/2007 5:05:21 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: DugwayDuke

make me think of that movie The Mothman Prophecies


257 posted on 08/01/2007 5:06:36 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: DugwayDuke

Maybe, but it’s bumper to bumper every morning and evening.


263 posted on 08/01/2007 5:07:21 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: DugwayDuke
accumulated metal fatigue and corrosion over the years
Some bridge inspector is gonna be in biiiiiiig trouble.
287 posted on 08/01/2007 5:09:16 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: DugwayDuke

sorry, dead weight is much different than live weight. the bridge would have been designed to hold that much dead weight. ROP and if I’m wrong...


290 posted on 08/01/2007 5:09:29 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: DugwayDuke

The first thing hubby said was “Look at the tankers and the cement truck! All that weight!”

Someone on the bridge said it was bumper to bumper traffic, and he was going to the Twins game!

I am just stunned.


308 posted on 08/01/2007 5:12:27 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I am in the Steel design and construction business. And I can tell you that the various loads that you mentioned, are the very ones that are always taken in consideration when designing a bridge. In fact, in steel construction, there is so much over designing that goes on, that it really takes something unforseen to bring a structure down (eg. earthquake, barge hit, etc.) Im not saying that it could not be a design failure but that is usually not the case. Also, a fourty year old bridge is not that old. But I am sure the various engineers of record will pour over the design dwgs, to see where the failure might have occured. Also if this bridge was under construction, you can be that before the project took place, a team of civil engineers were all over it to make sure it could structurally take the construction project.


319 posted on 08/01/2007 5:13:49 PM PDT by Weight of Glory
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To: DugwayDuke

Could have BEEN the stop and go traffic, kind of like marching over a bridge. Route step Hua.


351 posted on 08/01/2007 5:16:38 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DugwayDuke
the density of cars was far greater than the bridge could support.

That is a problem with a lot of our old infrastructure. Designed 30=40 years ago for much less traffic. That is what happened to the Sivler Bridge. Built in the 30s for Model Ts and other occasional vehicles. The night it fell, it was loaded down with cars and trucks, Christmas shoppers returning home and rush hour traffic.

1,032 posted on 08/01/2007 6:34:32 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: DugwayDuke

There was a cement truck on the bridge too. I don’t know if it had cement in it at the time but that would have been very heavy.


2,596 posted on 08/04/2007 11:38:11 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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