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Choose not to hate (warning: toxic)
Firedog Lake ^ | 8/1/07 | Smith

Posted on 08/01/2007 10:16:30 AM PDT by pabianice

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To: pabianice; Perlstein
I hate you, Perlstein. Well, not really, just your politics.

Sorry about your grandmother, though...

21 posted on 08/01/2007 11:29:15 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: dandelion

Tell him, he’s a FReeper.


22 posted on 08/01/2007 11:30:47 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: dandelion
There’s nothing like listening to a man smear his own Grandmother publicly after her death. Indeed, nothing says “Love” like a man writing an article about his Grandmother, using her full real name, while mocking and castigating her for her beliefs and choices. It is especially telling to see how Mr. Perlstein revels in his revulsion of his Grandmother, never telling us what good she did, but only what he hated about her. Impressive.

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Wow. You nailed it here.

23 posted on 08/01/2007 11:31:31 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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That ain’t no “man” worth wasting the time of day to! Just because you have bought into the liberal hate-machine that attacks anything remotely moderate or right-winged.


24 posted on 08/01/2007 11:36:54 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: trisham

That ain’t no “man” worth wasting the time of day to! Just because you have bought into the liberal hate-machine that attacks anything remotely moderate or right-winged, don’t claim we are the ones hating: it’s a two way street!


25 posted on 08/01/2007 11:37:28 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: pabianice

I am not about to defend the Leprechaun after his hate speech against this forum. Screw O’Reilly.


26 posted on 08/01/2007 11:38:11 AM PDT by montag813
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Well said! Where do we go from here indeed. There are dangerous fundamental differences that the leftist PC crowd, and even a few on the right, want to take us in. Differences that are a danger to our country , my community and most importantly my family. Am I supposed to embrace these folks? and say....what?

This whole “hate” rebuttal thing is taking on very concerning dialogue implications. It is being used to effectually shut down speaking up and if it continues down it’s current path we might as well burn the Constitution.


27 posted on 08/01/2007 11:43:23 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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If “the arc of history bends toward justice,” it’s only because people got up off their behinds and started bending it for themselves. Moral progress isn’t something we can count on the rest of the world to take care of for us. If you want to live in a world in which multimillionaire perverts pile up ever-higher fortunes by encouraging Americans to hate and fear one another, simply do nothing. If you want a better world, start thinking about how to make this stuff stop.

If I am reading this correctly, liberals are in favor of "justice," "[m]oral progress," and a generally better world. Conservatives, presumably, are in favor of injustice, moral backwardness, and generally worse living conditions for most folks. Or, as the author himself puts it, conservatives cherish "a world in which multimillionaire perverts pile up ever-higher fortunes by encouraging Americans to hate and fear one another."

Some people might consider that a rather cartoonish view. To put it as gently as possible.

28 posted on 08/01/2007 11:46:22 AM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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Actually, the author is correct insofar as the diagnosis is concerned. Old people who don't get out, and who almost never talk to real people except those who assume the "concerned visitor" demeanor, will latch on to some set of ideas -- the scarier the better -- and run with them.

My aunt is the same way ... though all of her hates and fears are driven by leftists. Evil Republicans, global warming, and so on.

What we're seeing, I think, is both sides of the same coin, and both symptoms of the fact that civil discourse, not to mention reliable information, is almost impossible to find within the MSM.

29 posted on 08/01/2007 11:50:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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“I almost cried, because one of the people she was learning how to hate was me.”

LOL! What a drama queen.


30 posted on 08/01/2007 11:50:17 AM PDT by exile ("Is Barney Frank gay or retarded?" - IMAO)
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RE: "capable of cogent thought or reasonable debate"

All I can say is, at least there were writings of his that did not raise my hackles. I never branded any of his writings "hate" I just tried to think of counter arguments and how to source my arguments. Mostly, to just comfort myself. I don't recall exchanging replies with him save for one FR email.

31 posted on 08/01/2007 11:54:50 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: pabianice

I love to despise people who write screed-a-torials like this.


32 posted on 08/01/2007 11:59:43 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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Well, the guy said we all ought to think about how to bring this sort of thing to a stop, and I immediately remembered "Denial of Service Attack" options against his service provider ~ ought to shut this putz up real nice.

Guy would rather hate his grandmother than take her to lunch and comfort her in her fear of terrorists who are very, very real.

We don't need guys like that.

33 posted on 08/01/2007 12:15:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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