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Harry Potter: 3 More Things I Learned
ExileStreet ^ | 8/1/07 | John Mark Reynolds

Posted on 08/01/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by ParsifalCA

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To: PetroniusMaximus

Except of course there’s no actual proof the non-character was even named after the real person, it’s just guess work. Then of course there’s the fact that the person’s textbook and the entire subject is made fun of for two books. If the character name actually is a reference to the real person (unproven supposition) it clearly isn’t a tip of the hat.

Have you read the article in 707 yet? Or are you afraid it’ll prove you wrong?


841 posted on 08/02/2007 1:34:07 PM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: discostu
Have you read the article in 707 yet?

No doubt he's waiting for the movie.

842 posted on 08/02/2007 1:35:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

You’re on a roll today, wearing out your punchline drummer.


843 posted on 08/02/2007 1:36:44 PM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: discostu

My son’s a drummer. He needs the work.


844 posted on 08/02/2007 1:39:35 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Does it pay well? lol


845 posted on 08/02/2007 1:40:25 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

Unfortunately no. Unless it’s coming from Dad’s wallet.


846 posted on 08/02/2007 1:41:53 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
My son’s a drummer.

So is mine! (The teenage one, not the witter-sandwiches ones.)

847 posted on 08/02/2007 1:41:58 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Sweden delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

[snort]

Someone’s clearly cast a spell on this poor fellow. Nobody’s this obtuse without some kind of intervention.


848 posted on 08/02/2007 1:42:47 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Since Cassandra Vablatsky isn't mentioned until Book 7, The Deathly Hallows, and you don't read the books, I truly believe your obsession here is unhealthy for you.

You must have a lot of time to research all these supposed occult connections to Harry Potter, in the last two days you would have had enough time to read at least two of the books.

You must have hotlinks to your favorite HP sites.

849 posted on 08/02/2007 1:43:47 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: Ramius

And unfortunately, the Mandrakes won’t be ready for some time...


850 posted on 08/02/2007 1:44:26 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: Pistolshot; JenB
Since Cassandra Vablatsky isn't mentioned until Book 7...

No, her text book is referenced in one of the earlier books. This arguments been floating around out there for years.

851 posted on 08/02/2007 1:54:43 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I drink coffee for your protection.)
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To: discostu

“Except of course there’s no actual proof the non-character was even named after the real person, it’s just guess work.”

The same way you can’t see the connection between the names “Vablatsky” and “Blavatsky” is the same way you can’t see the connection between the the occultism in HP and the occultism in the real world. You can’t see it because you don’t want to.

“Have you read the article in 707 yet? “

Yea, I’ve read it - twice. Nothing there. I’m suppose to be convinced by a guy moving leftward (”and quite a bit more disillusioned with the religious right wing of the conservative movement.”)?


852 posted on 08/02/2007 1:59:45 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

LOL! As any reader of T.S. Eliot would know, i.e., any educated person.


853 posted on 08/02/2007 1:59:56 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

“LOL! As any reader of T.S. Eliot would know, i.e., any educated person.”

“[Helena Blavatsky] has been credited with reviving interest in the occult, spiritualism and other paranormal concepts in the United States and in Europe. A major thrust of Blavatsky’s work is the elevation of the spiritual over the material, a theme renewed in the so-called turbulent decade of the 1960s and which for the moment is a common thread through much of “New Age” doctrine.”


854 posted on 08/02/2007 2:05:02 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

??? So T.S. Eliot had heard of her, else he wouldn’t have put her in the poem . . . modern editions require for modern readers, of course.


855 posted on 08/02/2007 2:07:55 PM PDT by maryz
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Cassandra Vablatsky is portrayed as a fraud in Harry Potter, as is the whole subject of divination.


856 posted on 08/02/2007 2:09:52 PM PDT by js1138
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Where’s the proof? The whole anagram thing just doesn’t cut it for me. Sure you can re-arrange the letters of one non-character referenced once or twice in over 4000 pages to be the name of some bad person, BFD. That has no REAL meaning. The reason I can’t see it is because IT DOESN’T EXIST. You’re WRONG.

The guy is moving leftward because he realized that people like YOU are a problem and an embarrassment?! Then I guess all of FR is moving leftward because you have ZERO supporters on this thread. He’s got the facts, he presents the facts, those facts utterly destroy the LIES you keep spreading. You lost. STOP THE LIES.


857 posted on 08/02/2007 2:10:04 PM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: discostu; PetroniusMaximus
So let me get this right, PM. There's a character in the HP book named Cassandra Vablatsky, whose last name is the rearranged letters of Helena Blavatsky (a name I and most others have never heard of). That, to you, is evidence of the real-life, hellbound occultist nature of Harry Potter.

I take back what I said earlier. Your argument is now the weakest I've seen. You managed to beat the guy who said that he agrees JK Rowling is a hack "without reading a word" of her writing. Congrats.
858 posted on 08/02/2007 2:18:33 PM PDT by TexasAg1996
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To: discostu
“Where’s the proof? The whole anagram thing just doesn’t cut it for me. “

Nothing will. I’ve listed real occultic practices (automatic writing, mirror magic, necromancy, astral projection etc.) and you don’t want to see that either.

“...you have ZERO supporters on this thread. “

I’m ok with that.

“He’s got the facts, he presents the facts, those facts utterly destroy the LIES you keep spreading. “

He doesn’t have “facts” - he has personal opinion.

859 posted on 08/02/2007 2:26:13 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: TexasAg1996; discostu

“So let me get this right, PM.”

No, you got me wrong.

“Helena Blavatsky (a name I and most others have never heard of).”

But almost anyone familliar with the occult would immediately recognize it.

“That, to you, is evidence of the real-life, hellbound occultist nature of Harry Potter.”

No. It is one example of real occultic things (in this case, a very famous occultist) hidding in HP. The real evidence of it’s occultist nature is the authors use of real occultic practices.


860 posted on 08/02/2007 2:30:57 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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