1 less gun for grandkids to worry about

Charlotte Observer ^ | 7/31/07 | DANNYE ROMINE POWELL

[CodeToad]

I forgot about that little number. I like it. I have always said the mind of a liberal is similar to that of a 7 year old.

[DesScorp]

“Two reasons,”

You’re a liberal, and you’re an idiot.

[Jack Hammer]

“In the 10 years ending in 2006, 486 children under age 18 in North Carolina, alone, died from gun-related injuries.”

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. This figure, part of an oft-repeated trend nation-wide, neglects all mention of the fact that the vast majority of these “gun-related injuries” are murders committed by young gang-bangers engaged in turf wars and a variety of criminal activities.

[Colorado Doug]

Guess folks would rather die after watching their daughters , wives or loved one tortured, raped and killed. Such as that Doctor last week who lost his wife and daughters to just such a home invasion.

I'll bet the Doctor had an alarm too.

[Plains Drifter]

If you want to read statistics of how kids are killed accidentally or intentionally you can purchase a soft cover book from the National Safety Council called “Injury Facts”. It’s about $35. It usually runs one year behind so they can gather the facts and publish them. When I was the safety officer for a large company I would purchase it every year. Here’s their website address www.nsc.org. Accidental gun deaths for kids runs behind swimming pools usually, bicycles, sometimes baseball bats and hotdogs. If you want the facts. Also doctor’s accidentally kill more people every year than guns do.

[absalom01]

The CDC’s on-line database has data through 2002 only. For the period 1996-2002, their data show that there were 19 accidental firearm-related fatalities for persons 0-14 years in North Carolina.

Wow. The same BS, recycled every 10 years.

Here’s the link to the CDC website.

http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10.html

[Squantos]

If he did....... it clearly wasn’t on, operating properly or monitored. Aside the alarm is no better that the bad guy waking you up vs the local siren of the alarm system if you have no means of self defense.

A defense in depth of physical security features such as quality door frames, burglar films on glass, good dead bolt locks etc should include but not be limited too the following......

Electronic sensors properly positioned to layer, protect each other and sequence in type of protection such as AIR, PIR, Infrasonic, IR trips, pressure pads, magnetic and contact types etc .

The ability to communicate with 911 should a line be cut with a fixed and portable cellular system on a UPS. Ones local alarm should be able to be sent to a monitoring agency with land line, cellular and the Internet.

Small barking pups, nervous sorts ...interacting with a plan that won’t cause false alarms of the electronics in place.

No one part of this “alarm” system is solid or undefeatable. All electronics can be bypassed or countered by a professional. The point is to layer a security system so each part protects the next, works in harmony with the other and have the ability to get medieval with the proper application of self defense to ...........stop the threat.

I know of no better tool to “stop the threat” for the common average home owner than a 12 gauge shotgun......

Just my opinion .......a review more than a Monday morning QB of the event. He may have had all of the above and luck was against them........doubtful. But possible.

[trickyricky]

"A 12 gauge Remington Wingmaster makes a distictive sound as I jack a round in to the chamber coming down the hallway."

And a couple rounds of 00 buck should perf the perp nicely.

[absolootezer0]

Ah yes, the ole counting on scaring the criminal away with noise defense.

those brinks commercials irritate the crap outta me. big scary guy smashes a window, and the alarm goes off, scaring the big bad guy away.
BS

[Hot Tabasco]

Without spending too much time on this, I did come across the one headline which pretty much explains the inaccuracy in the writer's article:

In 2004, there were 69 firearm deaths of children and teens in North Carolina, including 22 suicides and 5 accidents

Notice only 5 accidents.....

[absolootezer0]

and tells the bad guy right where to aim.

[DeFault User]

That tracks will with the stats in #106.

The CDC’s on-line database has data through 2002 only. For the period , their data show that there were 19 accidental firearm-related fatalities for persons 0-14 years in North Carolina.

[libstripper]

If is was a model 1911 .45, it probably wasn’t cocked and the child who was squeezing the trigger didn’t know how to deactivate the safeties.

[Dead Corpse]

As if I needed to gaze into a diseased sewer to know it’s an unhealthy atmosphere....

[Mr. Mojo]

those brinks commercials irritate the crap outta me

Yep, I saw the one you're referring to the other day and just shook my head. Sad part is a lot of folks are all-too-willing to believe that nonsense.

[hiredhand]

Here in N.C., fire code specifies that power inside the house be switchable from the outside. This means that ANYBODY who can "touch" the outside of your house can shut off your commercial power. I boiled it all down one evening with the youngsters at the house and we decided that our standard plan of layered defense was -

1. Dogs! Inside AND out! Mostly outside, but one very keen, very nervous dog stays inside at night! Also, as you know, they are (all except for Blue) small nervous dogs!....three Rat Terriers, and one Jack Russell!

If ANYTHING is out of the ordinary they go crazy! In truth...the Jack Russell barks at everything. But if the other two outdoor Rats bark with him, then something is probably not right. If the Doberman sounds in the mix, it's almost a certainty....and if the indoor Rat chimes in, then something is DEFINITELY out of the ordinary.

2. Everybody who is able has a serviceable weapon....is VERY familiar with the weapon...PRACTICES with the weapon...keeps the weapon in the SAME place, in the same configuration. Weapons safety is paramount in stress situations and it's a big NO-NO to even chamber a round unless instructed to do so by me or Mamma, or -

A. Dwelling breech is iminent by unauthorized individuals.
B. Life or limb is in iminent danger.

Along with weapons safety goes a healthy knowlege of the law and how it applies to a given situation. I made them read the books we brought back from the CWP course we took and they are aware that in the state of N.C. it is legal to issue forth deadly force THROUGH the perimeter of a dwelling from the inside if you feel that your life is in danger, or the lives of those around you are in danger.

3. Everybody has a FRS/GMRS radio and NOBODY (including me!) is allowed out at night to investigate strange noises without taking some comm gear!

I just can't stress enough the impression left on me by serving on jury duty a couple of years ago. We tried a guy who was one of six who broke a door down of a dwelling and basically beat the crap out of the occupants...sodomized the man of the house with a pistol.

I came back from that and told Sweetie and the crew that there seemed to be a trend of badguys showing up in numbers. So as it stands now, we've got a pack of ankle biters OUTSIDE....one INSIDE....two people on one end of the house, one keeping close a Mossberg 835 12ga pump loaded with "whatever" he keeps in the thing...the other keeps a Yugo M59/66. On the other end of the house is mee and Sweetie. I've got the FAL and she's got an AR-15.

My goal is to simply make it TOO much trouble for somebody to want to come poking around uninvited. If too much trouble means rounds fired in self defense, then so be it. It's all up to them. :-)

[Clam Digger]

Future victim.

[longtermmemmory]

OK so now we publish the authors address,

This way thieves know easy pickings there.

[DeFault User]

One freeper did look it up and posted it but the moderator (mercifully) deleted it.

[absolootezer0]

yeah, besides, who has them set while they’re at home?
one of my friends had a whole blown out system, motion detectors, noise detectors, door/ window movement, the whole 9 yards. of course, if the power went out, it didn’t work, so he got a generator. it took a couple tries to figure out how to set it up so it wouldn’t go off when the generator kicked in. he had the whole thing programmed, 6 ways to sunday, for different passwords for people, different times, etc.
the biggest problem came with setting off the alarm. you had 20 seconds to get it off, then a couple minutes before it sends out an alarm to the company, then you wait while they call to talk to you before they call the police.
there’s plenty of time to get in the house and rip the alarm off the wall, or force the owner to disable the system.
or if you cut the phone line before going in, its even easier.