[razzle]

You claim to be totally “scientific”, and totally objective; but all of you evos have already rejected the possibility of design, before the facts have been presented, and want to shut down anyone who wants to present the real facts - i.e. irreducible complexity and others contrary to darwin. I know some who believe in ID, do so for religious reasons, but ALL evos believe in darwinism for religious reasons - don’t kid yourself.

[dwhole2th]

In the pursuit of scientific truth one learns over a period of many years to apply strict self discipline in an approach to objectivity. It is a process that requires study and application of sound principles.

Calling scientists evos and darwinists reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of science.

Scientists do not hold such preconceptions. Scientists do not want to shut down anyone who wants to present the real facts. We welcome the real facts. But the facts must be presented in a way that conforms to the rules of science. Without that conformity there is only chaos. Your characterizations are simply ignorant, or delusional.