[betty boop]

I think we ought to respect the wishes of the person who started this thread. If he doesn't want the conversation drifting towards the theological, then so be it.

As if we could rid ourselves of "theological considerations," just because we might happen to prefer it that way?

Is that what you meant, csense? blam?

[csense]

I meant it in the way that has already been expressed, especially by Coyoteman. That’s all I’m going to say on the subject.