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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Sorry, but I won't speculate on what you say he said.

LOL That isn't what I asked you. I asked you what message granting amnesty to illegals sends. You still haven't answered.

I already did.

Ah, so since the passage you posted, nor the articles in the links you provided say that Bush ordered anyone to stand down, you've apparently backed off that claim.

If the sweeps are continuing as you assert, then why do you say Bush deserves part of the blame? What's he done wrong?

Like I assert? If you don't know that sweeps are continuing, you are apparently being very selective in what you remember from reading FR threads as well as the news you hear/read.

I would think from other posts I've made on this thread, you would be able to get the answer to your question, but since you don't seem able to do so, here's the answer (again). Like former Presidents, he hasn't sealed our borders nor sent back every single illegal the INS or other government entities get their hands on. Therefore, as I have said repeatedly, he shares the blame for the immigration mess.

I find it really odd that you have to ask that question, since it is you that jumped on my statement that other Presidents share the blame with Bush. Obviously, you felt he should be blamed for it all or you wouldn't have jumped all over my statement. Therefore, you must have SOME idea what he's done or failed to do.

I suspect your asking of the same question to which you know the answer over and over is an attempt on your part to avoid acknowledging the truth - that former Presidents share the blame for the mess we are in.

I'll accept your failure to answer my question on what message Reagan's amnesty sent as well as your asking the same question over and over (4 times in one post!) as an admission that my original assertion was correct.

Have a nice day.

170 posted on 07/25/2007 6:10:20 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
LOL That isn't what I asked you. I asked you what message granting amnesty to illegals sends. You still haven't answered.

No, you paraphrased what you wanted me to believe Reagan said instead of posting a direct quote as I asked.

You're the one who asserted this 'mess' started with Reagan's amnesty yet you have failed to provide any evidence to support your assertion.

Like I assert? If you don't know that sweeps are continuing, you are apparently being very selective in what you remember from reading FR threads as well as the news you hear/read.

If sweeps are continuing, then what is Bush done wrong? Why do you say he should he share blame with previous Presidents?

Like former Presidents, he hasn't sealed our borders nor sent back every single illegal the INS or other government entities get their hands on. Therefore, as I have said repeatedly, he shares the blame for the immigration mess.

I wish you'd make up your mind. In your previous paragraph you said that Bush was conducting interior enforcement, which means rounding up and deporting any illegals found. In this paragraph you claim Bush isn't conducting interior enforcement because he isn't sending back every single illegal the INS or other government entity get their hands on.

So, which is it? Either he's conducting interior enforcement or he isn't. He can't be doing both.

Obviously, you felt he should be blamed for it all or you wouldn't have jumped all over my statement.

You believe he deserves some of the blame, yet when I press you for details about what he's done, all you do is provide contradictory statements, like the two paragraphs above.

...Therefore, you must have SOME idea what he's done or failed to do.

As I have repeatedly detailed, Bush's actions are much worse than his predecessors. (Partnership for Prosperity? New Alliance Task Force? Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico? Drop in employer sanctions?)

You're the one who can't seem to make up your mind about what Bush has done or not done.

I'll accept your failure to answer my question on what message Reagan's amnesty sent as well as your asking the same question over and over (4 times in one post!) as an admission that my original assertion was correct.

You can't even provide a quote about what Reagan said was his intended purpose for the IRCA of 1986.

Have a nice day.

And we were just starting to have fun, too.

174 posted on 07/25/2007 7:55:09 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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