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To: MEGoody
No, he just said, "It's okay if you come here illegally. We'll just grant you amnesty."

Please show where Reagan ever uttered those words.

Can you give me a RELIABLE source that shows that Bush gave this order?

In June 2004, the BP in Temecula, CA performed a series of immigration sweeps to round up illegal aliens. The 12-man team made 450 arrests that month. In response to to outcry from illegal alien-apologists, the team was ordered to 'stand-down'. A town-hall meeting was conducted with Undersecretary of Homeland Security Asa Hutchinson in attendance. According to him, "...the raids were executed without the approval of higher ranking officials. While the sweeps were not illegal, they violated policy and the chain of command." (See: Union official: Frustration grows at Temecula Border Patrol station & Bush official slammed for stopping illegals sweeps)

How about employer sanctions? Are they up or down since Bush took office?

Federal records show that in 2001, 141 companies across the country were hit with fines, 15 of them in California. By 2002, those numbers had dropped to 73 and one, respectively. In 2003, 15 companies in the United States were fined ---- none of which were in California. And as of May, just one company ---- in Maryland ---- was fined this year. (Employer fines plummet for hiring illegals)

"The decline in arrests of employers of illegal immigrants, said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Temecula, and host of the Aug. 13 town-hall meeting, is due to an almost complete abandonment of interior enforcement in the two decades following an amnesty in 1986." (Employer fines plummet for hiring illegals)

Yesterday Richard Stana of the Government Accountability Office told a House panel that under the Bush administration workplace enforcement of immigration violations had fallen sharply. For instance, consider the numbers of employers who received formal letters warning about possible fines for violating immigration laws:

Under Clinton in 1999: 417 employers
Under Bush in 2003: 3 employers

(Workplace enforcement plummets under Bush)

Perhaps you could show evidence of how Bush has rejected the poor policies of his predecessors on immigration enforcement.

So blame Reagan for his error and the subsequent results of that (a great influx of illegals). Don't place all the blame in Bush's lap.

If you had your druthers, no blame whatsoever would fall to Bush's lap. Accordign to you, only the Presidents who came before him bear any responsibilty for what's going on now.

What responsibility does Bush bear for his part in this fiasco? (i.e.: the Partnership for Prosperity, New Alliance Task Force & Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico)

Actually, it started before Reagan. He made it worse. Then Bush Sr. made it worse. Then Clinton made it worse. Now Bush has made it worse. But somehow, people want to put all the blame on Bush. That's silly.

Fine. What exactly has Bush done to reverse the bad policies of his predecessors and correct the situation?

Please copy and paste where I ever said Bush should be excused. Oh, that's right, you can't. I never said such a thing.

Again, what has Bush done to fix what's wrong?

156 posted on 07/24/2007 1:47:44 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (After six years of George W. Bush I long for the honesty and sincerity of the Clinton Administration)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Please show where Reagan ever uttered those words.

LOL We both know Reagan didn't say those exact words, but isn't that the message that is sent when illegals are granted amnesty? If not, what IS the message?

Thanks for the links. It shows that the station officials ordered them to stand down, not Bush. (Which refutes the original claim that Bush ordered them to stand down.) By the way, we know that sweeps for illegals continue. There have been reports posted here on FR that shows they are occurring, so it's clear Bush has NOT ordered an end to them.

Perhaps you could show evidence of how Bush has rejected the poor policies of his predecessors on immigration enforcement.

Since I never claimed that he did, there's no reason for me to do so.

If you had your druthers, no blame whatsoever would fall to Bush's lap.

Please copy and paste where I ever said Bush doesn't get some blame in this fiasco. Oh, that's right, you can't. I never said that.

Accordign to you, only the Presidents who came before him bear any responsibilty for what's going on now.

Again, please copy and paste where I ever said that. Oh, that's right, you can't, since I never said such a thing.

What responsibility does Bush bear for his part in this fiasco?

As I have said repeatedly on this thread, he shares the blame with the former Presidents.

What exactly has Bush done to reverse the bad policies of his predecessors and correct the situation?

Once again, I never made a claim that he righted any wrongs. I just said he isn't the only one to blame. That seems to get under the skin of some folks on FR, but it's the truth none the less.

And thank you for admitting I never said Bush should be excused.

157 posted on 07/24/2007 2:36:14 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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