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Nope, just tired of everyone claiming it's "Bush's fault" when the blame is shared by former Presidents (and lets face it, by Congress as well).

Just not true. Everyone isn't claiming it is Bush's fault. What many of us are saying is that Bush is responsible NOW for securing our borders and 9/11 makes it imperative. You still haven't provided a reason why Bush refuses to do so.

Never said otherwise. But Bush is not responsible for all the illegals here. Many of them have been here for years and years (before Bush took office) and others were emboldened to come due to the action or inaction of previous Presidents.

I never said that Bush is responsible for all the illegals here. I do have a problem with him wanting to give them amnesty and failing to enforce the immigtration laws on the books, including employer sanctions. Even Clinton did a better job in that area.

For the same reason previous Presidents were. They didn't want to deal with it in the way it should be dealt with.

Other Presidents didn't have 9/11. I might add that Eisenhower took a far more forceful approach: Operation Wetback

It should have been changed prior to 9/11, because, as I said, we had terrorist attacks before then. I hold Bush responsible for not fixing it, but I hold the previous Presidents responsible for not fixing it as well.

LOL. There you go again with the blame game. You sound like the 12 year old saying that all the other kids are doing it, why can't I? Bush is in charge now. He is the one accountable, not previous Presidents. It matters not a hill of beans if we are attacked with a WMD and discover that it was transported from Mexico last month. Bush has had almost 6 years since 9/11 to fix it.

Yep, they were legal.

But not IMMIGRANTS. Big difference. About 50 million people a year enter this country legally.

I agree. As you mention in your post, we've stopped the visa 'express' for Saudis, so we've made some progress. We need to keep that progress moving forward.

LOL. A real sense of urgency--not. Congress stopped Visa Express, which actually continued after 9/11, which led to CA's Mary Ryan retirement from the State Department.