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To: newgeezer

Hip hop culture is just a symptom, it’s not the disease. The real problem here is a society that refuses to police itself. It celebrates reprobate and villifies the truly good. We are no longer allowed to judge and condemn the errant. It’s not their fault. They’re just a product of a fatherless home, racism, homophobia, islamaphobia, depression, anxiety, ADD, ADHD, poverty, inattentive mother, overbearing mother, too much TV violence, too many video games, cigarettes, trans-fats, lead paint, Alar poisoning, global warming, clergy abuse, bad schools, open borders or George Bush. Name a discretion, they’ve got an excuse. No one is accountable; no one deserves reproach. Walk into any shopping mall in any city in America and you are assaulted with language once reserved for the lowliest of sailors. And it’s coming from all ages and colors and no one even bats an eye. Hip hop is only a problem because we tolerate it, just like the potty mouths at the mall. Michael Vick is not a victim of hip hop; he’s just another example of turinng a blind eye to a problem, He was low-rent before he became a star, and continued to be low-rent after. Music and culture had nothing to do with his problem. He made a decision and no one called him on it; agents, managers, owners, teammates, or the press. Now he is paying a price in the legal system. How long before we hear what his excuse is? Who will be the first to jump to his defense.


57 posted on 07/23/2007 12:05:45 PM PDT by danno3150
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To: danno3150
Who will be the first to jump to his defense.

I will - you're just blaming the victim. Yes, the degenerate ghetto lifestyle is the product of a dysfunctional culture. But it's the legacy of slavery & discrimination that destroyed black families long before the Great Society.

IOW, it's all whitey's fault & will always be whitey's fault. Even those that arrived back around 1900 & even when Hispanics make up the future majority. Now pay up - reparations are in order.

69 posted on 07/23/2007 12:29:09 PM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: danno3150; All
Good comments...I have two related questions possibly you ca answer.

I read somewheres int he last few days that for some years, rap stars like Snoop Dog have glorified dog fighting in their songs/videos. Is this true? If so, why hasn't SD lost his commercial endorsements. He did an ad for Chrysler last year, IIRC.

Your comments about the degration of culture, society are 100% correct. However, I thnk Vick is a different case entirely, far worse. He's what, 28???.yet he's been involved in the dog fighting culture for 6 or more years. That's about 21-22.. Psychological studies of serial killers show they just don't start out killig women..they build up to it over some years..they start out torturing animals, maybe arson. So Vick had to be doing lots of bad stuff for years as a teenager..he didn't just oen day "jump" into the blood-sport pit of dogfighting...

77 posted on 07/23/2007 12:43:37 PM PDT by ken5050
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