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To: bruinbirdman
When I used to teach an intro economics course to freshman, they were wild-eyed idealists who thought they could solve Man's problems with a magic wand. One discussion turned to the elimination of poverty. The students all agreed that we must eliminate poverty, no matter what. I announced: "I can end poverty tomorrow." (At the time, poverty was defined as less than $9600 for a family of 4.) They eagerly awaited my answer. I said: "Line up all the people who make less than $9600 and shoot them." They were horrified.

I then asked them: "How does the person making $9601 feel?" They said: "Lucky!" I agreed, but I also pointed out that, in short order, they would start complaining that they were poor and they would want redress. The lesson finally ended with a discussion of the fact that anytime two people compare incomes and one has less than the other, the lower income person is deemed "poor". Indeed, unless you have a perfectly even distribution of income, you will always have "poor" people. A perfect distribution of income is pure communism and has been tried in numerous social experiments (e.g., New Harmony, Owenism, etc.) and it never works. Also, "poor" in the US is a hell of a lot different that "poor" in a lot of Third World countries.

Finally, we tend to glamorize poor people, giving them more status than most deserve. Rich people create jobs, give to charities, augment capital formation, plus making many other contributions to the economic benefit of society, while poor people do little to add to the economic well-being of society. If poor people worked at bettering themselves through education and hard work with the same gusto as they do pointing to rich people and blaming them for all their problems, we probably wouldn't have any "poor people".

2 posted on 07/22/2007 11:24:36 PM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack
Interesting to note than the left championed the poor for about 70 years (how long did the USSR exist). Clinton's election coincided with the fall of the USSR. At the time, the poor in the US went on a spree. Living in parks, sleeping in libraries, given shopping carts, homeless of millions. The Clinton administration controlled three branches of government and the poor thought they ran the country. "No justice no peace." Riots, looting. It was a mess. The word was out. Law enforcement was to use no force.

This lasted for about 2 years. It only took conservatives that time to win the Senate and the House and many state governments. Conservatives proved that the poor paid no taxes and were, in fact, not poor. The homeless crisis was proven a sham. Mitch committed suicide.

Suddenly, the poor are off the socialists vocabulary list.

The mantra is now "the wealth gap", "middle class disparities".

As a token for this election cycle, John Edwards has been selected by the socialists to emphasize the cause of the poor; the only candidate to do this. In fact, it is his only issue. Other candidates hardly ever bring up the word.

The socialists have succeed in virtually eliminating poverty through wealth redistribution.

They have not given up on redistribution. They just have a new constituency, the middle class, those who are taxed the most.

yitbos

6 posted on 07/23/2007 1:01:36 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: econjack

The romanticism isn’t totally misplaced, though perhaps now out of date. These are the folks that, until the onslaught of masses of illegal aliens and the fleeing of manufacturing to China, undertook the lowly jobs, the close to the earth jobs, the get your hands dirty jobs. Sweat and perseverance were honored.

Granted, class envy is wrongheaded. The existence of a Bill Gates generally does not cause poor people to be poorer.


11 posted on 07/23/2007 3:27:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: econjack
Also, "poor" in the US is a hell of a lot different that "poor" in a lot of Third World countries.

You mean that if I own a cell phone, have only one Color TV, Cable, Air Conditioning and a Car, that I could still be considered poor? And I'm likely to be 60 pounds overweight too! Now that's POOR!

18 posted on 07/23/2007 6:31:01 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: econjack
Back when my kids were younger and got old enough to notice when things got tight they asked if we were poor. I told them "Heck no! We're just broke right now"

There is a difference.

19 posted on 07/23/2007 6:34:21 AM PDT by tiki
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To: econjack
We need to divert money from servicing the poor into delivering jobs and enterprise,

Um, didn't she just make the point that "servicing" the poor does deliver jobs? ;-) Well, not to the poor . . .

21 posted on 07/23/2007 6:39:26 AM PDT by maryz
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To: econjack
I said: "Line up all the people who make less than $9600 and shoot them."

It worked for Uncle Joe.

22 posted on 07/23/2007 6:40:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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