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To: jabbermog
Wow. Is this really true ? Then your politicians are not much better than ours rewarding their customers with handouts.

The Democrat Party has been buying votes in this manner since the early 1930s. Unfortunately, the Republican party is trying to do the same thing. But with regards to housing, there are numerous public housing complexes in every major city here. Of course, many are in decrepit shape because the tenants are not held responsible for upkeep. As for free healthcare, any person in the USA, legal or not, can walk into any hospital (which receives public funding) ER and receive healthcare at zero cost to them. As a result, the ER becomes a de facto doctors' office. With regards to obesity, junk food is often times far cheaper than healthy food here, so that tends to be consumed more, and we see the result.

May I use your post to demolish this argument with some of my lefty mates in our local pub ?

Go for it.

14 posted on 07/23/2007 5:56:52 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: pnh102

“With regards to obesity, junk food is often times far cheaper than healthy food here, so that tends to be consumed more, and we see the result.”

Good post but I beg to differ ion that point a bit. It is cheaper to go buy a bill of groceries but “the poor” don’t like to come off that money all at once. No, I have seen many shop daily in a C-Store where prices are at least double. People who put $2 worth of gas in their car every day instead of filling up (because they don’t want to spend the money all at once)generally spend the same way with regards to food.

When I was in college, I worked at a C-Store next to some section 8 housing. The residents basically shopped daily in the expensive as hell, junk-food selling C-Store. As an aside, the owner of that section 8 housing turned off the water because people weren’t even paying their drastically reduced rents, as low as 25$ a month.

There is a reason people are “poor”.


15 posted on 07/23/2007 6:06:36 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: pnh102

Thanks PNH, I will tell some of the guys and gals the truth about welfare when we meet up in the Plough on Friday night. (I’m probably wasting my time though).
I note your dismissive comments on the US Republican party. Unfortunately Big Government, in the US or UK, just gets bigger and bigger. Our ‘Conservative’ leader sounds more like a Lettuce eating hippy sometimes - he goes on about ‘compassion’,a ‘new society’, ‘social justice’ etc. Just like your Republican Congressmen, he doesn’t believe any of this; they all have to read from this script because they are terrified of being seen as uncaring.

What some economists predicted 25 - 30 years ago is coming true. The wealth creating sector is put under ever increasing pressure to bankroll the wealth consuming, parasite welfare sector, and once a Government puts excessive welfare spending in place then future administrations of whatever political colour HAVE to follow, or they don’t get elected. Simple as that.
An American economist based over here, Professor Charles Murray, predicted as far back as 1988 that walfare would lead to social breakdown. Of course he was dismissed as a cold hearted Nazi, but the chickens have come home to roost.
Will the last taxpayer please turn the lights off.


27 posted on 07/24/2007 3:11:38 AM PDT by jabbermog
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