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Posted on 07/22/2007 4:36:02 AM PDT by GFritsch
Maybe "Explanations" of the Force of Gravity as he "Falls" out a window, or the Force Of Bouyancy that struggles against his cement shoes, or Centrifugal Force as his car overturns..
That's like saying, "I want clean air and clean drinking water." Who doesn't?
You cannot deal in facts until you have facts. You trust that the media has reported all of the facts with regard to Vince Foster. Many of us here don't share that trust because experience has taught us the folly of believing that the media keeps us well-informed on scandals involving Liberals -- or that it keeps us informed on good news involving conservative policies. It doesn't -- and that's a fact!
Further, some of us here think that people who believe that conventional media reporting keeps them informed are themselves unknowingly subject to quite a lot of "illogical constructs" because they don't differentiate between innuendo and skepticism.
As for me personally, I've witnessed close-up how easy it is for the media to cover-up dissemination of facts in order to protect ideologies, organizations, and people. You labor under the mistaken idea that it is difficult to cover-up news. I, on the other hand, have been disillusioned. Someday you will, too.
When I say facts I mean source documents and perhaps an interview with someone such as VF’s wife.
VF’s handgun was actually two separate handguns sold in 1913! AHAAA! That’s it, it was a conspiracy!
also go here: http://www.allanfavish.com/foster.htm
What are you saying? That you accept findings from the NTSB?
# When the NTSB scheduled public hearings into the crash in Baltimore for Dec. 8, 1997, the FBI pressured the NTSB to exclude those highly credible eyewitness reports and ban their live testimony from the hearings.
# The FBI influenced the content of the NTSB hearings by pressuring the NTSB chairman to exclude any evidence of an external explosion by banning all discussion, reports, test results and eyewitnesses that supported such an event. The absence of laboratory results of explosive residues from the hearings placed total reliance on the word of an FBI crime lab with a history of inadequate scientific checks and balances.
# On July 21, 1996, a safety board report states that Assistant U.S. Attorney Valerie Caproni informed Norm Weimeyer, head of the Flight 800 probe’s operations group, “that no interviews were to be conducted by the NTSB.” Safety board investigators could review FBI-supplied documents on the witnesses, “provided no notes were taken and no copies were made.”
I read your site last night and enjoyed it. What ever happened with your FOIA request? I saw that you won access to certain photos, but never saw them and the last update to your site on these was 2004 I belive.
I’ll check out the other link to FR. thanks.
Combine the facts that (1)it wasn't VF's handgun, (2) an old gun like that is a perfect "drop gun" because it is impssible to trace, (3) VF left no prints on the external surface of that gun, (4) VF left no blood on the gun that he supposedly fired off in his mouth, (5) VF arrived at FMP before his car did, according to several eyewitnesses, (6) there were no grass or dirt stains on the soles of VF's shoes, though he supposedly walked over 700 feet through grassy and dirt terrain immediately before the "suicide", and (7) the gunpowder burns on the victim's hands were consistent with a defensive posture at the time a shot was fired at him at short range - and you can see that the "suicide-in-the-park" conclusion is dead wrong! About the only alternative theory that makes sense is foul play!
Nothing illogical about concluding that there was a homicide conspiracy if that's the only way you can explain the evidence!
Note also that the NTSB at the time was chaired by a close buddy of - Al Gore!
Your number one “fact” saying it wasn’t Foster’s gun is wrong. It was identified as being his father’s gun from the inheritance Two. Any old gun is a drop gun?? Three. Any prints that were smeared from a gun being fired in a suicide? Four. Ever heard of muzzle blast? Seven. Defensive posture????? you have to be kidding me.
Who identified it? Where is there any documentation of a legitimate identification of the gun? Remember, the gun in the park in contact with the victim's hand was black or "blue," not silver.
Any old gun is a drop gun?
The older the gun is, the less likely to be traced to its owner, all else being equal. So, yes, old relics (80 years old, in this case) are preferred to newer guns for that devious purpose.
Any prints that were smeared from a gun being fired in a suicide?
There were no prints, smeared or not, on the external surfaces of the gun! Are you telling me that a suicide would think of wearing gloves in hot summer weather to make sure he left no prints? Let's get real!
Defensive posture?
Yes. It is illustrated in Chris Ruddy's book, "The Strange Death of Vincent Foster." It is documented more completely in "Failure of the Public Trust," by Patrick Knowlton, John Clarke, and Hugh Turley.
“When shown the gun, Foster’s sister, Sharon Bowman, identified it as appearing very similar to the one their father had kept in his bedside table, specifically recalling the pattern on the grip.”
Here is what author Ambrose Evans-Pritchard stated in reply in his book, "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton" (p.131):
This is a nice exhibit of Fiske's methods. In fact, the record indicates that Fiske's investigators never showed Sharon Bowman the gun. If they ever spoke to her at all, they did not leave any paper trail. What the documents reveal is that Mrs. Bowman was shown a picture of a gun by a family friend, who then wrote to the Park police saying the "pistol in the photograph" looked like a gun that she had seen in her father's collection.
In fact, she did not identify it. Her husband, Lee Bowman, told me a very different version of this story. "Sharon thought she would be able to recognize it, but she really couldn't," he said. [Citing Author interview with Lee Bowman, April 1995] Fiske's entire identification is built on a might or perhaps that that was nothing more than hearsay in the first place.
It was their son, Lee Foster Bowman, who had the most detailed knowledge of the guns. He had fired some of his grandfather's collection - three handguns, four shotguns, and two or three rifles - when they used to go duck hunting together at a cabin in Yellowcreek, Arkansas, and he expected to be able to identify the .38 Special with an etched handle that the old man kept by his bed. [Citing Green Books, p. 1806. FBI 302 Report, statement of Lee Foster Bowman, June 28, 1994] But the gun found at Fort Marcy Park was an "old piece of junk," nothing like the elegant silver-colored antique he remembered.
"He didn't remember the black handle and the dark color of the metal." [Ibid.]
The truth is, no member of the family was ever able to identify the gun found in Foster's hand. Not one. Ever.
Too many unexplained “dead” associates of Tubba and Bubba for there not to be highly suspicious connections. The Clintoons certainly have lots of explaining to do. No one, I repeat, no one has that many dead people trailing behind them. Sorry, if you don’t believe VWF was murdered, but I do.
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Vincenzo Fosterini was murdered. If you study enough to know why Hillary called Vince that, you will know that he was murdered. Know. Ambrose Evans-Pritchard is a reliable starting point.
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Whats so really weird is that I have met an unusual amount of people that honestly believe Hillary will be president by any means necessary, by any means implying that buy hook or crook they will still support her, what is our country becoming when the public supports any means like bribes, extortion, slander and even murder to get their choice of a leader?
Perhaps the whole process of a presidential election should be considered, I know nothing about a better process but it appears to me our system is getting too crooked and prone to manipulation to swing votes.
I actually think it should be a lottery system, some person legally and mentally able to hold the position just drawn from the public might even be better.
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