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To: Gideon T. Reader
Saying you are going to shoot the crap out of someone with your nonexistent Jack Bauer Model H&K .40cal never empty blaster, does not mean you can do it, if you do not have the weapon, or even own such a weapon.

Pretty wordy Canuck, aren't you. Guess you missed this part...

The four men fled minutes later, but police stopped their getaway car shortly after and found several weapons, including a loaded handgun under the driver's seat.

Sounds like a straw man, Eh?

13 posted on 07/21/2007 8:09:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961
Anyway, I thought guns were tightly controlled in Canada so this couldn't possibly happen.

Nicely registered; wrapped in pretty ribbons; all good.

15 posted on 07/21/2007 8:56:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Publius6961
If “there were a weapon in the vehicle, including a handgun” and there was not a *display* of the handgun as part of the initial threat, I doubt seriously that the conviction will stand on what is a sure appeal element.

The verbal threat without the instrumentality, i.e., the weapon being actually shown, means very little. Even under silly Canadian law rulings. Or the Canada customs requiring warrants to search vehicles, cargoes or persons at the border. Piss poor selection of personnel to be Judges.(sadly not much worse than our own here in the USA)Sort of like saying you are going home to get your big brother. We shall see.

16 posted on 07/21/2007 9:07:26 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (Palestinians: Proudly producing mindless violence and savagery at the same location since 1964.)
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To: Publius6961
If “there were a weapon in the vehicle, including a handgun” and there was not a *display* of the handgun as part of the initial threat, I doubt seriously that the conviction will stand on what is a sure appeal element to the special appeals process set aside for such contentions.

The verbal threat without the instrumentality, i.e., the weapon being actually shown, means very little. Even under silly Canadian law rulings. Or the Canada customs requiring warrants to search vehicles, cargoes or persons at the border. Piss poor selection of personnel to be Judges.(sadly not much worse than our own here in the USA)Sort of like saying you are going home to get your big brother. We shall see.

17 posted on 07/21/2007 9:08:29 AM PDT by Gideon T. Reader (Palestinians: Proudly producing mindless violence and savagery at the same location since 1964.)
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