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To: tabsternager
Sorry, but a frequent tourist means nothing.

Tourists? My son works for a Jerusalem agency, and I can assure you that when I am in Israel I am home.

Your understanding of the Covenents is clearly jaded by your misunderstanding of biblical covenants. Typical praeterist nonsense, sorry, but true. I have a long history with man's theologies such as praeterism and covenant theology. I have since repented. I am 100% Zionist, because G-d is.

The "conditionality" of the Land, always results in a RETURN. Please do a little more reading and not so selectively. Pick up a copy of Deuternomy. Start reading in Deut 30.
40 posted on 07/20/2007 10:17:29 AM PDT by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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To: safisoft

Deuteronomy 30? Here it is:

When all these blessings and curses I have set before you come upon you and you take them to heart wherever the LORD your God disperses you among the nations, 2 and when you and your children return to the LORD your God and obey him with all your heart and with all your soul according to everything I command you today, 3 then the LORD your God will restore your fortunes and have compassion on you and gather you again from all the nations where he scattered you. Even if you have been banished to the most distant land under the heavens, from there the LORD your God will gather you and bring you back. 5 He will bring you to the land that belonged to your fathers, and you will take possession of it. He will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. 6 The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live. 7 The LORD your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you. You will again obey the LORD and follow all his commands I am giving you today. Then the LORD your God will make you most prosperous in all the work of your hands and in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your land. The LORD will again delight in you and make you prosperous, just as he delighted in your fathers, if you obey the LORD your God and keep his commands and decrees that are written in this Book of the Law and turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

“turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.” Even if you believe it’s the land that’s important, then clearly the secular state of Israel has not met that requirement.

Dispensationalism, which has been a belief since only the 19th Century, is unbiblical. There aren’t two covenants, just one. Read the Bible objectively and ask God for wisdom as to what it really says.


41 posted on 07/20/2007 10:26:20 AM PDT by tabsternager
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