Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: BlackElk

Like all politicians are as pure as the driven snow ... none of them would want pure, naked power, now would they ?

You go ahead and trust your and your descendents futures to your international elitist masters. I’d prefer to trust in the Constitution and the government that enforces all being equal under the law.


304 posted on 07/21/2007 5:03:02 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 303 | View Replies ]


To: cinives
Good thing you aren't an unborn child.

SCOTUS has illicitly assumed the status of a perpetual constitutional convention without need of 3/4 of the states ratifying its decisions distorting the constitution.

Franklin, asked by an old lady on the Philadelphia streets what sort of government the FF were creating, said: "A republic, madame, if you can keep it." That suggests that he well expected what was to come.

The constitution was a noble experiment in binding flesh and blood politicians with shackles of words. It has not worked as well as hoped. We retain some but by no means all of what was provided by the FF and, as fallen men, we have reverted in other respects to the unwritten constitution (politicians' self interest trumping much that is deemed "inconvenient" in the words of the FF).

The rule of law is a largely dead issue when it clashes with the will of officeholders. It began dying when CJ John Marshall decided that SCOTUS had the power to declare acts of Congress unconstitutional.

It continued dying when Abraham Lincoln, aided and abetted by other radicals and by Generals like Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan illicitly attacked and invaded states that had chosen to leave the Union as was clearly their Tenth Amendment right.

It continued dying when, after the Confederacy and its people were assaulted, raped, murdered and pillaged on the blatantly nonsensical pretense that a state that had joined the Union could not leave, those same eleven states were then "required" to ratify Amendments 13, 14 and 15 as a "condition" of their "re-admission" to the Union and looted for another eleven years under military "reconstruction."

Need I detail the rise of the largely (entirely?) unconstitutional welfare state which seems to have the aura of permanence about it if we depend upon either elections or SCOTUS to smell the coffee? Or many other unconstitutional depredations?

So, forgive me if I am skeptical of the constitutional sacred virginity theorizing and philosophizing of paleoPaulie and his friends and their having a nervous breakdown over our fighting necessary wars with Congressional authorizations of force without being fussy enough and dainty enough to had the specific words "Declaration of War" in headlines at the top of the resolution, apparently because the UN Charter (which we idiotically signed off on so many years ago and ought to abrogate immediately if not sooner) purports to outlaw war. PaleoPaulie and the moonbats are ignoring 220 years of American history as well as the Supremacy clause of Article VI.

While you are preening as a "constitutionalist", you might want to review the history of its ratification. Speaking of elites, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington and their Federalist cronies were very upset that the Articles of Confederation did not grant the nation's social and financial elite all the power they craved to order the economy to their interest and liking.

Under the pretense of wanting to devise rules for the navigation of the Potomac River, they held two conferences (at Annapolis and at Mount Vernon) at which they actually plotted the demise of the Articles of Confederation in favor of a new constitution which would give them, for example, the power to levy taxes rather than request money from the states.

The constitutional convention was called and the constitution drafted. However, the convention had no power to do anything but propose changes to the Articles of Confederation. Under the Articles of Confederation, any change whether in the nature of an amendment or by replacing the Articles with a new constitution REQUIRED the UNANIMOUS approval of the states. Such approval was quite unlikely and the FF decided to provide that ratification by nine states would make the constitution the new governing document for them. When the ninth state had ratified the new and illegal constitution, the Articles of Confederation were dead as a practical matter. Soon enough thereafter, federal troops were suppressing Shays' Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion and a Federalist Congress was busily passing sin taxes (on such as whiskey) to make the modest folk pay the bills run up by the elites.

Fortunately for the Republic, the Federalists overplayed their elitist hand and were eliminated from the White House and from control of Congress, both permanently, in reasonably short order. Unfortunately, Jon Marshall was left behind by vengeful elites as SCOTUS Chief Justice to invent centralized power theories undreamed of by the FF such as the power to declare acts of Congress unconstitutional.

I despise such elitists at least as much as the next guy but I do not kid myself that paleoPaulie has a clue or would defend anything, much less our country, with any talent whatsoever. The man is an eccentric loon. Nor do I think the United States is waiting to be delivered from its burdens by the John Birch Society, by libertoonians generally, or by Objectivists in particular and we are certainly not so naive as to pine for an eager Al Qaeda apologist like paleoPaulie to run our foreign policy or command our troops.

I live in the real world.

Sorry about you.

305 posted on 07/22/2007 10:58:39 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 304 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson