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To: kiriath_jearim
I was incredulous, and, to be honest, a bit skeptical. How could so many CHL-holders be that ignorant about their obligations at traffic stops?

Just one question: How did the officer know the individuals were carrying and were license holders if they did not inform the officers of this fact? Seems like the officers were lying.

There is no law that you have to disclose your permit to LEOs in CA, as a matter of fact you are discouraged from doing so by a lot of instructors of firearms training classes. At one time it was taught to do so as a coutesy until some overzealous LEOs jailed a few permit holders because they didn't like the way their licenses looked(true story). Some CA cops seem to go off the deep end if they find out you are carrying.

Stopped for a traffic violation? Say "yes, sir", "no,sir" and "thank you sir" and drive off with your ticket. Legal and wise thing to do in CA.

I have always wondered at the stupidity that goes into making a law that requires you to disclose a permit and the fact you are armed. If you are a criminal you are not going to have a permit and you sure as he** are not going to tell the cop you are armed. If you are a permit holder you are most likely(about 99.9 percent)to be law abiding and very, very unlikely to use your weapon on the cop. It just boggles the mind when you think about the mentality of the people running this country.

13 posted on 07/18/2007 10:09:49 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
Just one question: How did the officer know the individuals were carrying and were license holders if they did not inform the officers of this fact? Seems like the officers were lying.

Probably pops up on their records check.

14 posted on 07/18/2007 10:14:17 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: calex59

Don’t you think that when the LEO “runs” your plates and then your license number that their computer WILL VOLUNTEER the CCW license info anyway?


15 posted on 07/18/2007 10:14:26 AM PDT by George from New England
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