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Senate to interrogate border agents' prosecutor[U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton](Ramos-Compean)
The Washington Times ^ | 17 July 2007 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 07/17/2007 5:37:55 AM PDT by BGHater

A Senate hearing today into the convictions of two U.S. Border Patrol agents who shot a fleeing drug-smuggling suspect is expected to spark heated debate as the U.S. attorney who brought the charges defends the prosecutions.

U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton will tell the Senate Judiciary Committee that a jury in Texas heard all the evidence against agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean in their shooting of Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila and ruled it was not justified.

"This case is not about illegal immigration but the rule of law," said Mr. Sutton. "After a 2½-week jury trial, these former agents were convicted of shooting at and seriously wounding an unarmed, fleeing suspect who posed no threat to them."

Another witness, T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Counsel (NBPC) who has angrily denounced the prosecution, will challenge the government's case, saying there were only three witnesses to the incident and prosecutors believed Mr. Aldrete-Davila over the two agents.

"The only way to conclude that Agents Ramos and Compean should have been prosecuted is if the word of the known drug smuggler is given more credence than the sworn statements of two law-enforcement officers," said Mr. Bonner, whose union represents all 11,000 of the agency's nonsupervisory personnel.

The committee also will hear from Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar, Border Patrol Deputy Chief Luis Barker and Ramos' appellate counsel, David L. Botsford.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat and chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on terrorism, technology and homeland security, first raised questions about the prosecutions in February. Committee Chairman Sen. Patrick J. Leahy, Vermont Democrat, has ruled she will preside over the hearing.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; compean; immigrantlist; ramos; senate; sutton; suttonsucks; traitorsutton
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To: BGHater
"This case is not about illegal immigration but the rule of law," said Mr. Sutton.


21 posted on 07/17/2007 5:57:38 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: BGHater; kabar

Will this be ‘live’ on C-span for the viewing public?


22 posted on 07/17/2007 5:57:44 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: TexasCajun

I agree....what about the JURY? I would never want to go in front of a jury these days.


23 posted on 07/17/2007 5:58:26 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: kabar
They picked up the spent shells and tried to cover up what happened. That was their mistake, not the shooting itself.

That's called "consciousness of guilt." They should rot in prison - cops can't shoot people in the back if they pose no threat to them.

If this were in rural Midwestern America, and the person shot an American citizen, we'd all be up in arms about jackbooted-thugs. But because the victim was an illegal alien, we want him shot like a dog?

24 posted on 07/17/2007 5:59:29 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster; dennisw
"The only way to conclude that Agents Ramos and Compean should have been prosecuted is if the word of the known drug smuggler is given more credence than the sworn statements of two law-enforcement officers," said Mr. Bonner

How does Traitor Sutton sleep at night?

He must want that federal judgeship really bad, to sell out these agents, and his country.

QUISLING: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

25 posted on 07/17/2007 6:00:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kabar

He said they should have been fired but not tried for a crime. According to him, once a weapon is fired, it becomes a crime scene.


Well was it a crime or not?....... Now which crime[s] you prosecute can be adjusted. Remember they were convicted on several counts each, not just one.


26 posted on 07/17/2007 6:00:38 AM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: normy

I would not have a problem with commutation. But these guys are neither saints nor heroes.


27 posted on 07/17/2007 6:01:21 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Guenevere; All
I can't find the hearing listed on the C-Span page at all. C-Span2 is currently showing a Veteran's Mental Health program.

Does anyone know if this is supposed to be televised, and if so, when? I thought I heard before that it would be broadcast.

28 posted on 07/17/2007 6:01:30 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid./LOUD and PROUD!)
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To: Condor51

Mr Sutton is correct.


29 posted on 07/17/2007 6:01:51 AM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Perdogg

Nor are they bad guys. Its not like they raped the suspect with a plunger.


30 posted on 07/17/2007 6:02:19 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Perdogg

They should never have been prosecuted, just fired. That was the opinion of the former BP agent who also wants them released from prison immediately. Their prosecution has demoralized and outraged many current BP agents.


31 posted on 07/17/2007 6:02:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: samtheman
“This is Bush’s greatest shame.
I can’t believe he refuses to do the right thing and pardon these to agents.”

Bush’s greatest shame is that he often lets his pride get in the way of doing the right thing. That man is nothing if not among the most bull-headed people on earth.

32 posted on 07/17/2007 6:03:22 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Perdogg

How does a Drug Smuggler’s mother have the home phone number of a Border Patrol Agent’s mother and why does he return the phone call to his house?


33 posted on 07/17/2007 6:03:27 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: samtheman
"Juries do get it wrong"

Read the trial transcripts.

34 posted on 07/17/2007 6:03:43 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: BGHater

It’s about time.


35 posted on 07/17/2007 6:04:37 AM PDT by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: Perdogg
**** Mr Sutton is correct. ****

'mr' Sutton is a power hungry assh*le.

36 posted on 07/17/2007 6:05:12 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Perdogg

They didn’t know they hit him because he escaped to Mexico in a waiting van.


37 posted on 07/17/2007 6:05:14 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: vetsvette

there’s nothing wrong with being bull-headed, when you’re right

he’s bull-headed on Iraq, and he’s right

it’s his inability to see right from wrong on anything to do with borders that’s so maddening about our President

not just our border, but Iraq’s borders too

Bush doesn’t do borders, and these agents are suffering for that lack


38 posted on 07/17/2007 6:05:31 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: deport
Well was it a crime or not?....... Now which crime[s] you prosecute can be adjusted. Remember they were convicted on several counts each, not just one.

Again, I am basing my response on the opinion of a former BP agent with almost 40 years service. He said that there are SOPs that require them to report any discharge of their weapon and not pick up shell casings, etc. Once a weapon is discharged it becomes a possible crime scene. I left out the word possible last time.

Like the Libby case, there might not have been any crime, but it was the cover-up that was prosecuted. The real question is should they have been prosecuted for a crime or just dismissed for administrative reasons.

39 posted on 07/17/2007 6:08:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: samtheman

I hope they don’t just focus on these two guys but all LE this guy has charged with crimes.


40 posted on 07/17/2007 6:09:07 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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