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22 Million New Smokers Needed: Funding SCHIP Expansion with a Tobacco Tax
The Heritage Foundation ^ | 7/11/07 | Michelle C. Bucci and William W. Beach

Posted on 07/15/2007 10:44:09 AM PDT by wagglebee

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It's amazing how much reliance the government places on something it claims to oppose.
1 posted on 07/15/2007 10:44:13 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: Gabz

Ping


2 posted on 07/15/2007 10:44:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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As an alternative to the tobacco tax, Congress might look to raise income taxes to avert a SCHIP funding shortfall.

Beautiful - now we all get to pay for this monkey ...

3 posted on 07/15/2007 10:52:17 AM PDT by Ken522
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I would really love it if all the smokers stopped smoking, then watch the government start screaming about how they and the anti’s were wrong about smoking.


4 posted on 07/15/2007 10:54:39 AM PDT by TheMom (Dix, TexasCowboy and Flyer all now live in the next best place to Texas . . . Heaven!)
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To: wagglebee

“With the number of smokers already declining, a tobacco tax would further reduce the number of smokers, thereby eroding the funding source.”

And this is a bad thing?


5 posted on 07/15/2007 10:54:42 AM PDT by MidlandDesperado (There is none so blind as they that won't see. Jonathan Swift.)
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The law of diminishing returns will take effect, the higher the tax, the more people who will quite smoking, leaving the SCHIP short of funds, which will be covered by different taxes on non smoking sources.

Anything the libs can do to get one more program foisted on “We the people” no matter how the couch the terms or ideas.


6 posted on 07/15/2007 10:55:55 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: wagglebee

El Rushbo predicted this years ago.


7 posted on 07/15/2007 10:58:08 AM PDT by reg45
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To: wagglebee

There’s already a growing black market in smokes out of Mexico and from “bootleg” producers in the south. The opening of unimpeded truck traffic out of Mexico within the year will only accelerate this trend. The lessons of Prohibition have been forgotten but the machinery for avoiding it is adaptible and already in place.


8 posted on 07/15/2007 11:00:57 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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Increasing the tobacco tax is an inequitable way to fund SCHIP,...

Ban smoking and expect smokers to pay via taxation.

Yeah, that will work.

Gosh, someone has earned their wages.

9 posted on 07/15/2007 11:01:12 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: MidlandDesperado

It’s a ‘’bad thing’’ because the Regress, when they see that their newest welfare programme hasn’t enough funds, will unquestionably whip up another tax or a series of tax increases on all Americans.


10 posted on 07/15/2007 11:03:36 AM PDT by SAJ
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A group of people will always burden others for the sake of themselves.

Sadly, there are so few smokers as a percentage of the population we have put them to slave status and will tax from them anything we want.

People should e proud of themselves for figuring out how easy it is to take from others.


11 posted on 07/15/2007 11:04:57 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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I would really love it if all the smokers stopped smoking, then watch the government start screaming about how they and the anti’s were wrong about smoking.

Your a loving person however if you think that the anti personal freedoms crowd is going to claim that their agenda is wrong all I can say is "your dreaming"!

LOL!

12 posted on 07/15/2007 11:06:44 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Ping


13 posted on 07/15/2007 11:08:39 AM PDT by Obadiah
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And this is a bad thing?

If you don't see it as a bad thing then vote a liberal ticket my FRiend.

14 posted on 07/15/2007 11:09:27 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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We call it CHIPS here. Awhile back they were begging for enrollees. The ones on Medicaid get free health insurance. The ones that must pay usually buy private plans.


15 posted on 07/15/2007 11:14:22 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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so, as I’m understanding the logic, congress wants to impose a tax on a legal product that is illegal to consume in the majority of businesses across the country while claiming that we must further reduce the number of smokers countrywide, for their health, then want to base a new program on revenue from an activity they’re trying to eradicate all the while relying on more of what they’re trying to wipe out..is that about right?

these guys get paid to think like this?? hell, I could do that job..


16 posted on 07/15/2007 11:14:44 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: edcoil

It seems to me a people who would burden others for the sake of themselves can not sustainably have self-government. Like a lot of Americans I see if they could legally rip other people off they do it. Like selling shady mortgage products.. or lawyers taking jackpot settlements, or the countless people on the government doll. Our politicians are just as shady, rarely above taking money from lobbyists. Ceo’s selling out their employees for stock options etc..

At some point a majority of people need actual morality that they actually follow...or the society breaks down.

The only way I can see holding together a nation of people who couldn’t care less about the society’s well being, only thinking about ‘I got mine, screw you’.. is an iron fisted dictator, who keeps people’s greed in line with fear.


17 posted on 07/15/2007 11:16:15 AM PDT by ran20
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Yep, it defies logic.


18 posted on 07/15/2007 11:18:00 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

And don’t forget black market smokes is also a major source of revenue for Islamofacism sleeper cells. They buy in low tax states like North Carolina and sell in high tax states like Michigan.


19 posted on 07/15/2007 11:19:48 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: TheMom
In 2001 two 35-year studies came out disputing the effects of second-hand smoke.

Two Universities reporting were:
1. University of California - Berkeley
2. University of Illinois - Urbana/Champaign

Info went hush/hush as the anti-smoking zealots proclaimed that "all their hard work would go down the drain."

20 posted on 07/15/2007 11:20:42 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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