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Fred Thompson backs off lobbying denial
Politico ^ | 7/12/07 | Mike Allen

Posted on 07/13/2007 7:48:24 AM PDT by pissant

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To: pissant

No. This is a flat-out lie. Read Fred’s piece. We discussed it up and down here yesterday.


41 posted on 07/13/2007 8:28:05 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I read Fred’s piece. It certainly had no denials in it. You can contrue it one of two ways -

As a preemptive strike to tell us he will not be responding to future “dirt” regarding his clients.

Or a backdown from the denial.


42 posted on 07/13/2007 8:31:19 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant
My comment was in general and could apply to sooo many FR threads.

I'd always thought of FR as a place to pool ideas and help move the conservative agenda forward. Unfortunately, it’s now just a place where people challenge the conservatism of others and exchange metaphorical FU's.

Basically, I don't understand anymore how FR helps the overall conservative agenda or prevents the more liberal candidates from winning elections. The complete lack of any pragmatism is not a recipe for success.

43 posted on 07/13/2007 8:37:27 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Stick to talking about your own candidate. We’re smart enough to figure out the rest on our own.)
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To: pissant

So, what we have in this item you posted, is no new information. It’s just old information interpreted in a way that you like. The same as ever. Pfftt!


44 posted on 07/13/2007 8:40:13 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Clam Digger

Fred is going to be our next president.


Don’t know if that will be but he certainly has a lot better chance of it being than the single digit wannabees. This cycle has a much different flavor in that we have no heir apparent in either party. Paul brings along the Libertarian contingent based upon his being their nominee in the past. Others have very little national exposure or leadership roles even after many years of service in Congress or Party affiliation.

But it is coming to head rapidly with Ames being about 30 days out and we’ll probably see some drop outs afterward. Time is rapidly fading to get organizations with funding in place for the Jan. - Feb. onslaught of primaries. It looks somewhat like 2000, a few out front and a bunch hoping to be players. We’ll see and one interesting aspect will be whom will the drop outs cast their support to after they leave the campaign trail....

Interesting times a coming.......


45 posted on 07/13/2007 8:42:06 AM PDT by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: RacerF150

You don’t remember the fights between the McCain and Bush camps on FR? Brutal. It’s always been brutal here. Much more interesting than a site that marches in lockstep with the RNC.

FR helps AFTER the primaries and its help to the conservative cause was on display a few weeks ago, when we helped flatline the amnesty bill.


46 posted on 07/13/2007 8:42:57 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: RacerF150

In before the opus? /sarc


47 posted on 07/13/2007 8:43:33 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: ran20
Hillary is also an attorney. Most politicians come from a legal background. So I don't think it will be a campaign issue. Other things will eventually come up.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

48 posted on 07/13/2007 8:43:58 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pissant

*Yawn*


49 posted on 07/13/2007 8:44:14 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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To: Clara Lou

I see. So far I’ve been criticized for bringing up “old” thompson quotes. Now I get grief for bringing up a new article on the hottest topic in the blogosphere regarding politics. I guess I’ll just post Fred press releases from now on.


50 posted on 07/13/2007 8:45:06 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Cicero; pissant; All
Part of Fred's piece, titled "A lawyer who is a prospective candidate" from Power Line.

The easiest and most generally used tactic when running against a lawyer is to trade off a general perception that most people dislike lawyers. Goodness knows that a lot of lawyers have earned disfavor but, as it turns out, folks understand our system better than a lot of politicians think they do. In my first run for the Senate, my opponent tried the old demagoguery route – “He has even represented criminals!” – to no avail.

A first cousin of this ploy is to associate the lawyer with the views of his client. Now-United States Chief Justice John Roberts addressed this notion during his confirmation hearings. “… [I]t’s a tradition of the American Bar that goes back before the founding of the country that lawyers are not identified with the positions of their clients. The most famous example probably was John Adams, who represented the British soldiers charged in the Boston Massacre.”

Roberts pointed out that Adams was actually vindicating the rule of law. Every person, unpopular or not, is entitled to representation. He further said, “That principle that you don’t identify the lawyer with the particular views of the client or the views that the lawyer advances on behalf of the client, is critical to the fair administration of justice.”

Like Adams, the views of attorney Abe Lincoln would have been a little hard to discern from looking at the positions he took as a lawyer. He represented the big railroad companies and on other occasions represented farmers and small land owners against the railroads.

Likewise during the Roberts confirmation, the New York Times reported on August 5, 2005 that as an appellate lawyer in the mid-1990s, Roberts gave advice to a gay-rights group that helped them win a 1996 anti-discrimination suit. Chief Justice Roberts had no direct hand in the suit. Rather, colleagues at his firm were handling the case and sought advice from a number of partners, him included. The group said that Chief Justice Roberts provided “invaluable strategic guidance” formulating legal theories.

I’ve experienced another gambit of those schooled in the creative uses of law and politics: dredging up clients – or another lawyer’s clients – that I may have represented or consulted with, and then using the media to get me into a public debate as to what I may have done for them or said to them 15 or 20 years ago. Even if my memory serves me correctly, it would not be appropriate for a lawyer to make such comments.

This situation does however bring to mind my many years in the law, and the nature of law practice in a country such as ours that prizes independence and individual rights. Of course, these values could not be protected without lawyer-client confidentiality or if lawyers were identified with the positions of their clients.

51 posted on 07/13/2007 8:45:53 AM PDT by Isara
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To: Isara

Yes. A good attempt at preemption.


52 posted on 07/13/2007 8:46:54 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Despite the worst efforts by you, the lib media and the Democrats, Fred’s still doing great among likely voters!

Rasmussen Friday the 13th:
Fred Thompson 25%
Rudy Giuliani 24%
John McCain 12%
Mitt Romney 12%
Mike Huckabee 2%
Sam Brownback 2%

Keep it up! I just donated another $100 to Friends of Fred, bringing my total so far to $250 since their website went up June 5th.

On my modest salary, I hadn’t planned to give so much so soon, but you guys bring out the campaign donor in me!

The inside buzz is that all of the slime heaped on Fred is actually helping his campaign by painting him as a symapathetic figure under attack from panicky rivals and the drive-by media.

Thanks for your part in all that, and thanks for persuding me to open my wallet for Fred Thompson!


53 posted on 07/13/2007 8:49:06 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("The CIA has better politicians than it has spies." - Fred Thompson)
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To: TomGuy
I wonder if he is also affected by SML about his role in helping this lobbying client as well.
54 posted on 07/13/2007 8:49:32 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: kevkrom
The work clearly had so little impact on Thompson's life that he doesn't even recall doing it.

His apathetic response reveals his heart.

A pro-life individual would be outraged at the suggestion that he or she may have aided abortion, particularly in their professional life for money.

The fact that his reaction is "I don't remember" says a lot. It means he holds out the possibility that he may have lobbied for abortion, and ultimately doesn't care.

55 posted on 07/13/2007 8:51:08 AM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: pissant

I know that I can’t change your mind about Fred. The information is for other people to see for themselves.


56 posted on 07/13/2007 8:51:35 AM PDT by Isara
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You must be rooting for Hillary then.

Why is it that when someone disagrees with you on Fred Thompson (do you know why?) he must therefore be "rooting for Hillary"? How can you make that judgment?

57 posted on 07/13/2007 8:51:40 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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"The climb-down could be a significant embarrassment..."

Embarrasment. Maybe. Not a campaign killer. Thompson still wins GOP nomination. He and Huckabee will make a great team.

58 posted on 07/13/2007 8:54:34 AM PDT by LEARNED FOREVER
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To: Sturm Ruger

No problem. Enjoy


59 posted on 07/13/2007 8:55:14 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: ran20
The dems will have a field day if Fred wins the nomination.

I think it will be a harder sell than the RATS and their media handmaidens realize. His lobbying career was a long time ago (have you noticed how McCrazy has been spared talk of his long-ago Keating Five scandal?). More important, normal people have far more respect for corporations than these idiots realize. They don't see it as a character flaw if you lobby for a big successful company; they're impressed that a big successful company thinks you're good enough to represent them.

The Swift Boat issues stuck to Kerry despite being very old because military sins are another story entirely.

60 posted on 07/13/2007 8:55:33 AM PDT by freespirited (Mr. President, PUT UP THE WALL.)
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