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Fred Thompson backs off lobbying denial
Politico ^ | 7/12/07 | Mike Allen

Posted on 07/13/2007 7:48:24 AM PDT by pissant

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To: ellery
Thompson’s arguments against the export act, discussing important national security threats and delivered on Sept. 4, 2001 were directed against Bush.

Export act?

Hmm...

Here is my original post to this thread

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I've never heard him rail against this ever growing government or our lawless borders. Before this current up coming election, never have I seen him stand up in Congress or anywhere else, and voice outrage at the state of affairs in this country.

Some people just keep saying, "Boy, I hope Fred is the next President". And that's it.

What's he done? Where is the leadership? Has he stood up in Congress or anywhere else, and pounded on the tables demanding less government and secured borders?

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Again, to be honest, the years old speech you provided from Thompson, was just not impressive, and had little to do with what I'm talking about. It just rambled.

I like Fred, but you know what? We need someone that is as outraged over the above issues as most of us Americans are. And I just have not seen that in Thompson.

For example, during the Bush years, this illegal invasion of our country has *exploded*.

And I don't recall hardly hearing a peep from Thompson.

Just a guess, but I'd say we need someone a bit more tuned into reality.

221 posted on 07/13/2007 11:21:10 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

“Besides a Hollywood movie, is there a video somewhere that will show him banging on the podium, voicing his outrage and demanding something be done?”

During Bill Clinton impeachment proceedings, was Fred T outraged? Guess not. Fred T voted to convict but he also voted not to hold Bill Clinton accountable for lying under oath. Wishy washy. Fred doesn’t seem to really care passionately about anything - issues, I mean.


222 posted on 07/13/2007 11:29:10 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You must be rooting for Hillary then.

Ouch! Thats what I call a southpaw jab. heh

223 posted on 07/13/2007 11:38:14 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: dragnet2
Just a guess, but I'd say we need someone a bit more tuned into reality.

Which leaves you out completely.

Here...for you to peruse at your leisure since it seems you are too lazy to look for your own information. Check the date.

FDT on the incomprehensible Immigration Bill Posted on June 13th, 2007

Excerpts from commentary aired at ABCRadio.com on May 18, 2007:

Most Americans know that we have an illegal immigration problem in this country, with perhaps as many as 20 million people residing here unlawfully. And I think most Americans have a pretty good idea about how to at least start solving the problem — secure our nation’s borders.

Back in May 1985, Congress promised us that it would come up with a comprehensive plan to solve the problem of illegal immigration and our porous borders. Eighteen months later, in November 1986, that comprehensive plan was signed into law.

Twenty-two years and millions of illegal immigrants later, that comprehensive plan hasn’t done what most Americans wanted it to do — secure America’s borders. Now Washington says the new “comprehensive” plan will solve the problem that the last comprehensive plan didn’t.

Is it any wonder that a lot of folks today feel like they’re being sold a phony bill of goods on border security? A “comprehensive” plan doesn’t mean much if the government can’t accomplish one of its most basic responsibilities for its citizens — securing its borders. A nation without secure borders will not long be a sovereign nation.

No matter how much lipstick Washington tries to slap onto this legislative pig, it’s not going to win any beauty contests.

We should scrap this “comprehensive” immigration bill and the whole debate until the government can show the American people that we have secured the borders — or at least made great headway. That would give proponents of the bill a chance to explain why putting illegals in a more favorable position than those who play by the rules is not really amnesty.

224 posted on 07/13/2007 11:44:46 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: everyone

People, the perfect candidate does not exist. Major figures in the GOP simply do not feel as strongly about the social issues, do not take them as seriously, as the base does. Wake up and smell the coffee, accept imperfection, and think about who is best, or least bad.

The Rats are evil, are they not? So why are we whining about someone not being perfectly good?????????????


225 posted on 07/13/2007 11:59:03 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Pistolshot
FDT on the incomprehensible Immigration Bill Posted on June 13th, 2007

Excerpts from commentary aired at ABCRadio.com on May 18, 2007:

Oh, you mean he finally commented on our lawless borders recently? At about the same time he started kicking around the idea about running for president, and doing the talk shows? What a coinkydinky.

Where's Fred been on this for the past 7 years or so slick?

He's was obviously missing in action, and certainly NOT among the small chorus of voices demanding action in the past decade.

You see where I posted this below? I made this comment anticipating posts such as yours.

>>I've never heard him rail against this ever growing government or our lawless borders. Before this current up coming election, never have I seen him stand up in Congress or anywhere else, and voice outrage at the state of affairs in this country.<<

226 posted on 07/14/2007 1:26:24 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
I see what you want there. You want the same status quo of the career politician,whose main job when elected is NOT the work of the people, but to get re-elected.

Nevermind that Fred term-limited himself, nevermind he decided to bury a child, remarry, raise a family, stay out of the insanity that is the beltway and raise kids, act, and otherwise enjoy his life. Nevermind he helped usher Roberts throught the grueling Senate process, as asked for by the President himself, AND continue to do his acting gig or commentary for Paul Harvey or ABC Radio.

You want the same banter you get from EVERY politician, on any subject, so you can feel good about it. You want the same rhetoric day in and day out that has been the PROBLEM with Washington forever.

Thanks for showing us exactly what you are looking for in an electable president, slick. You want the status quo.

Rudy cookies and kool-aid are to your left, help yourself.

227 posted on 07/14/2007 6:19:33 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: dragnet2

dragnet2 said:
“Right. That’s why I currently favor Hunter by a nose.”

WAIT! what has Hunter done to limit government? Isn’t he a part of the huge lawless current congress? Isn’t he one of the biggest pork barrel spenders? Show me where Hunter is talking about limiting government and cutting spending...


228 posted on 07/14/2007 6:29:23 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: dragnet2

If Hunter isn’t out there trying to lead congress into limiting government, then don’t you think he could be part of the problem?


229 posted on 07/14/2007 6:30:55 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Clara Lou
bump fred letter in 163 for reference
230 posted on 07/14/2007 8:52:38 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: RatsDawg
If Hunter isn’t out there trying to lead congress into limiting government, then don’t you think he could be part of the problem?

You bet he is. I make no excuses for any politician, and I don't consider any of them my friend.

He just seems to have a much better grasp on the state of our borders, and seems to understand the magnitude of this invasion.

231 posted on 07/14/2007 10:29:06 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Pistolshot
Rudy cookies and kool-aid are to your left, help yourself.

Oh please.

Giuliani or however you spell this New Yorkers name is the last person on the Republican stage I would vote for. The very last. Actually, if he were the only one on the stage, he wouldn't get my vote. Let that sink in for a moment.

You want the same status quo of the career politician,whose main job when elected is NOT the work of the people, but to get re-elected.

Again, you could not be more incorrect.

Do yourself a favor, stay out of the mind reading and assumption business. You'll starve to death.

232 posted on 07/14/2007 10:37:08 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: RacerF150

I agree with your premise and your conclusion. Besides that, love your tag line!


233 posted on 07/14/2007 1:13:12 PM PDT by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: what's up
People here love Fred and hated Harriet even though they had similar evolutions on abortion. Very undeveloped thinking.

You're the one whose thinking appears to petrified.

234 posted on 07/14/2007 3:04:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Yours is a comment with no logic represented.

Shows undeveloped thinking...the type I mentioned earlier.

235 posted on 07/14/2007 9:02:26 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up
Shows undeveloped thinking..

Similar to your undeveloped sentence structure?

236 posted on 07/15/2007 7:55:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You're the one whose thinking appears to petrified

LOL. Look who's talking about sentence structure!

I always laugh when an FR poster resorts to "grammar policing" and such rather than the points made in debate.

Again...undeveloped thinking is apparent.

237 posted on 07/15/2007 6:38:45 PM PDT by what's up
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To: TomGuy; E. Pluribus Unum; ejonesie22

>Fred has not convinced me that he is the right one, but that doesn’t mean I am rooting for Hillary.......<

What Fred has done to date, and the Fredheads have convinced me that Fred is definitely not the candidate for me. But I will settle for Duncan Hunter, Tancredo or Huckabee in that order.


238 posted on 07/16/2007 11:36:21 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge)
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To: Paperdoll
But I will settle for Duncan Hunter, Tancredo or Huckabee in that order.

And I'd like to win the lottery!

239 posted on 07/16/2007 11:44:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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