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To: hocndoc
How can anyone deny that the sun has a role to play in climate change?

from the abstract

There is considerable evidence for solar influence on the Earth's pre-industrial climate and the Sun may well have been a factor in post-industrial climate change in the first half of the last century. Here we show that over the past 20 years, all the trends in the Sun that could have had an influence on the Earth's climate have been in the opposite direction to that required to explain the observed rise in global mean temperatures.

So what's your point? Who are you arguing with?

142 posted on 07/11/2007 5:42:49 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry; hocndoc
from the abstract

As I've shown in an earlier post, the abstract can be ignored.

So whatcha got besides your dubious little "abstract", ll?

Got something we can all read and be assured that pieces of it aren't being changed behind the curtain? ;-)

150 posted on 07/11/2007 5:49:19 AM PDT by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: liberallarry

Have they shown why the minuscule time scale doesn’t matter? Why we should not expect effects with much longer time constants to swamp this stuff out — especially the most new fangled measurements that were not even possible for most of the climatic history that we know? Great as journalism, horrid as science.


152 posted on 07/11/2007 5:50:55 AM PDT by drlevy88
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