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Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson
ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: pissant
He’s got a couple of stinker votes on guns as well.

Pissant, please provide the bill numbers (you also may want to read 337 re the immigration votes too)

341 posted on 07/10/2007 12:18:44 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Jokelahoma

Hey!

You’re getting personal here!

I quit eating kids years ago...

The dog kicking thing was just a misunderstanding...


342 posted on 07/10/2007 12:19:28 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Don't worry hippie, we'll defend you too. Now fetch my Cafe Mocha will you....)
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To: mnehrling

Thanks. I had a feeling.


343 posted on 07/10/2007 12:20:01 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: pissant

Wouldn’t know. I can’t see tossing money his way just to find out.


344 posted on 07/10/2007 12:20:13 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: BillyBoy

It’s not hypocricy BillyBob, it’s judgment based on facts and alternatives at hand.

Every candidate has warts. People look at each candidate and make a judgment as to which has the least warts or warts that can be treated or overlooked.

The facts are obvious... so are the warts.

Most conservatives are fed up with “compassionate conservatives” like the Bush family, aka globalist appeasers first.

Most are not hardcore blame American first, last and often isolationists like Ron Paul, or even “fence building one trick ponys” like Duncan Hunter.

Most are not closet liberals like Rudy Giuliani either. McCain’s time has passed. Tancredo, Huckkabee, Brownback and the others fail to resonate with voters.

Romney is a special case all his own.... Judge that one for yourself.

NO “career politician” like Hunter, Paul, McCain, Tancredo or Brownback will ever be seen as real “conservatives” because real conservatives would never be career politicians.

That set of conditions set conservatives on the path to find a candidate they could believe in, both based upon conservative values and electability. That effort resulted in the drafting of one Fred Thompson....

It’s not hypocricy... It’s conservative grassroots activism at it’s best.


345 posted on 07/10/2007 12:20:20 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Clara Lou

>Who’s he keeping company with? (I didn’t find a list anywhere on this thread.)

Then you didn’t read the article. Ronald Reagan walked with conservatives.

FDT walks with moderates and globalists. Mentioned in the article were: John McCain, LaMar Alexander, very liberal Sally Quinn and her husband, editor of the Washington Post, and long time good buddy, globalist Howard Baker (instrumental in giving away the Panama Canal), who is today FDT’s closest advisor. Not to mention the several CFR staff members of globalist GWB who have joined the Thompson campaign.


346 posted on 07/10/2007 12:21:00 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge,)
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To: BillyBoy

Fred Thompson on Immigration
Opposes amnesty in any form. (Jun 2007)
Nation loses sovereignty if it cannot secure its own borders. (Apr 2007)
Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the US for farm work. (Jul 1998)
Voted YES on visas for skilled workers. (May 1998)
Voted YES on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Fred_Thompson.htm

What’s your source?


347 posted on 07/10/2007 12:21:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BillyBoy

Re: Kyl ... this is bit off topic, but I agree with you. Conservatives being mad at Kyl is understandable. For conservatives to seek his defeat would be a short-sighted, self-immolating tantrum.


348 posted on 07/10/2007 12:22:13 PM PDT by Oliver Optic (Never blame on strategery that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: EternalVigilance
In his brilliant dissent, Judge Adrian Burke cites the Declaration, and declares that it has the force of law:

Dissents are not law. The majority opinion, to which the dissenter responding is the law.

349 posted on 07/10/2007 12:22:43 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: CharacterCounts

If you knew who I was, you’d be embarrased to talk constitutional law with me...

I have embarrased my fair share of Harvard and Yale professors on the subject of constitutional law.

Really want to give it a try?


350 posted on 07/10/2007 12:23:10 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Cyber Liberty

Get it from the library then. D’souza was a Reagan skeptic, bought into the lazy, unengaged stereotype of a simpleton that the MSM had painted of him. Until he got to see him up close working for him.


351 posted on 07/10/2007 12:23:11 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: trisham
See post 337, the ‘facts’ have been pointed out to BillyBoy several times, yet he continues to post the misrepresented votes.
352 posted on 07/10/2007 12:23:36 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: BillyBoy

Fred’s Record -

Voted YES to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification. (1996)

Voted YES on maintaining the chain migration system. (1996)

Voted YES on removed higher fines for businesses which hire ILLEGAL aliens (1996)

Vote YES grant amnesty to nearly one million ILLEGAL aliens from Nicaragua, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. (1997)

Voted NO on including worker safeguards in H-1B bill (1998)

Voted YES for foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud provisions. (2000)

******************************************************

All of these were anti-business bills, not anti-illegal immigration bills....

Can’t you tell the difference?


353 posted on 07/10/2007 12:25:53 PM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: ejonesie22
Heh! The dog had it coming. I asked her if he supported (insert ideologically pure candidate here) and she refused to bark in the affirmative. Since I knew immediately that meant she would be one of those responsible for the destruction of civilization, I had to kick her. If only she had supported the right, true conservative candidate. Sigh...
354 posted on 07/10/2007 12:26:03 PM PDT by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: mnehrling
There is a lot of bad information out there that is repeated over and over

*************

Exactly, and you know what they say about repeating a lie. Eventually it will be accepted by some as the truth.

355 posted on 07/10/2007 12:27:39 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Anonymous Rex

It is disingenuous of you to claim Fred Thompson has Bush people therefore it makes him suspicious when all of the top tier candidates have successful campaign folks associated with them. And in Washington to be considered top notch or successful, you would have to be associated with winners, thus President GW Bush, President GHW Bush, and President Reagan.


356 posted on 07/10/2007 12:27:52 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Rudy, Mayor of Sanctuary City)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
See post 337, Billy Boy continues to post these even though he has been shown several times that these votes are blatant misrepresentations.. they actually take ‘yes’ votes on processes like moving the bill to the floor, and say he voted yes for the bill (even though he voted nay on the actual bill)
357 posted on 07/10/2007 12:27:55 PM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: Paperdoll
You must have missed that whole thing earlier about this guy saying the same basic stuff about Reagan.

Guess we need to strike him from the books...

Oh, and please look up the BIO of one Kenneth M. Duberstein, Reagan’s Chief of Staff circa 1988-89. He’s a CFR member. Guess either Ronnie did not always walk with conservatives OR ???

And that is one example...

BTW, nice Hunter speech intro earlier, you need to get on staff

358 posted on 07/10/2007 12:28:59 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Don't worry hippie, we'll defend you too. Now fetch my Cafe Mocha will you....)
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To: CharacterCounts
Dissents are not law. The majority opinion, to which the dissenter responding is the law.

Are you saying you agree with the majority?

Because the only authorities the majority cited were a couple of books that no one has ever heard of or cares about.

359 posted on 07/10/2007 12:29:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Implement the FairTax and be free and prosperous, or stick with the StupidTax...it's up to you...)
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To: Halgr
Conservatives are a minority within the GOP. Wishing for one that meets the Bill Buckley ‘standard’ (if you can decipher his brand of english....) is a waste of time.

Buckley can't be a conservative, he's a member of the CFR!

360 posted on 07/10/2007 12:29:45 PM PDT by Prokopton
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