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To: fieldmarshaldj; PreciousLiberty
No flawed reasoning, just cold, hard facts.

The cold, hard facts are that your friends are dead. They are dead because they abused drugs in some way that caused their death. The illegality of the drug(s) did not deter them. The WOD did not save them. They would be just as dead if the drugs they abused had been deemed legal. They are just as dead even though the drugs in question were deemed illegal. These are the cold, hard facts.

You point to your dead friends as a reason to continue the WOD, but the WOD didn't save them, they are dead in spite of the fact of the WOD's existence. The fact that you can't see the flaws in your logic are your problem, not mine.

The tack the libertines take that somehow doing illegal and harmful substances doesn’t HURT anyone or is some Constitutional right is beyond ignorant, it’s anarchic.

Please don't put words in people's mouths. I don't think anyone here has ever made the case that drug usage is risk free. We regularly make the case that shows folks like you typically over-estimating the risks of drug usage, especially with pot. As for the "anarchic" charge, the WOD causes more anarchy than legalization ever could. The WOD has led to violent black markets here and around the world, curruption of govt officials, has led the way in eroding constitutional protections, given criminal records to millions of non-violent citizens, increased the size and scope of the government, no-knock or knock and enter raids leading to death and/or injury to innocent citizens, affected banking privacy.... nice job....

45 posted on 07/10/2007 9:35:18 PM PDT by Unknown Pundit
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To: Unknown Pundit

I’m sorry, you did indeed misunderstand me. Allow me to explain... My former classmate and his wife didn’t die from OD’ing. His wife did not do drugs. You see, they had two young children.

The young man had become well-known to the local police because of his problems, yet inexplicably, thanks to our local liberal judiciary, he never was incarcerated as he SHOULD’VE been and gotten the treatment to break his habit.

Understand that one night several years ago, he, his wife, and a few other people were over at his house, with his 2 young children sleeping in their room. High and out of his mind, he pulled out a gun and blasted his wife’s brains against a table at point blank range and nearly killed the other guests. With the cops enroute, he ran outside and ate his gun.

With that, 2 little children, in the span of a few minutes, were orphaned. The parents of the wife forgave the young man for what he did because they, and I, knew that the person he was in reality and who he was when he was on those “substances” were as different as night and day.

I don’t EVER want to see those substances legalized, period. How many other lives will be similarly destroyed if the “illegal” stigma is removed, which does, believe it or not, prevent some from becoming addicts. Like I said, the failure to more aggressively step up WOD failed this young man, his wife, his children, and a plethora of others whose lives they touched.

Too much the example of “people are going to do it anyway (so why not legalize ?)” is the argument of the libertine. As I said, by that reckoning, there is no need for ANY laws, or any government whatsoever. The name for that is simple. Anarchy. Civilized societies cease to be without basic laws defining acceptable and unacceptable behavior. That will never be an acceptable behavior.


46 posted on 07/10/2007 10:39:48 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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