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Oh, that really disproves my point. Are you trying to tell me that the question about the founder of Intel was the only thing you've got from my post; or is it the only one where you could shine your knowledge of trivia?

Whose greed did we pander to when we let in all those scientist fleeing from the Nazi? Do you really think we were capable of building the atomic bomb without them?

Look at the application pools for almost any doctoral programs in business and science --- count how many are domestic applicants. How many of professors in the universities are foreigners --- all these are H1B visa holders.

You, as many other posters, confuse hunt for cheaper labor with our national need for talent. And even here you make a mistake: why should the rest of America pay $150/hour to a kid without a college diploma (as it did in 1990s), if it can pay less?

What's most unpleasant is your Marxist, anti-capitalist stance. Gates' greed? You do not even have a clue who owns Microsoft and all largest corporations in this country. It shows also the small caliber of your soul, which is unable to even fathom that Gates may act on motives other than greed. It is also plain stupid: if he cared that much about another crummy $100M, as you purport, he would not have give to charity 300 times as much. It is greedy people that suspect others of greed.

Go ahead, ask for a raise, Mt. Socialist.

>>Are you trying to tell me that the question about the founder of Intel was the only thing you’ve got from my post; or is it the only one where you could shine your knowledge of trivia?<<

You should read about Robert Noyce’s life before you preach about the founding of Intel as an example of lack of native talent. You might learn something.

>>What’s most unpleasant is your Marxist, anti-capitalist stance. Gates’ greed?<<

Yes, I have watched Gates for a long time. I have had to debug Microsoft bugs. I have seen his business practices. Unlimited H1B visas? I guess you agree with that.

At first I thought you might be arguing for a reasonable immigration policy, but it appears that your agenda is anti-American. No, believing that Americans have as much talent and skill as any other culture does not make one a socialist. Your “Americans are dumb” mantra is tiresome and false.

>> Look at the application pools for almost any doctoral programs in business and science -— count how many are domestic applicants. How many of professors in the universities are foreigners -— all these are H1B visa holders.

You, as many other posters, confuse hunt for cheaper labor with our national need for talent.<<

It’s not just the wages. H1B visa holders are easier to control than Americans, and greed can desire more control as well as money.

The number of applicants for doctoral programs does not measure all aspects of talent. Bill Gates, your hero, who is talented (but ruthless), dropped out of his undergraduate program. I’ll bet today’s Microsoft would not hire 1975’s Gates. Many of today’s best engineers taught themselves without going through graduate school. After 4 or 5 years at an American university, many talented Americans really need to work rather than going to graduate school.

Look at the application pools for almost any doctoral programs in business and science --- count how many are domestic applicants.

Well, you've got a pool of applicants from around the world (4.75 billion people) versus a domestic pool from only 300 million. Of course the ratio will be in favor of foreign-born applicants. We need to protect our own citizens first, and not let their hopes and aspirations be overwhelmed by the swarm of non-Americans who want to live and work here.