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Harsh US immigration rules force Microsoft to open shop in Canada
Breitbart.com ^ | July 5, 2007

Posted on 07/05/2007 7:33:02 PM PDT by Babu

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To: hedgetrimmer
Who owns a transnational corporation?

This is publicly available information. Check out who owns GE, GM, ExxonMobil, for instance. You'll find that most of it is owned by institutional investors, typically mutual funds in which you pension money is stored.

Employees, too, becomes extremely wealthy on more occasions that you hear about. About 100 people left Google recently, each of whom are worth at least $7M --- all from the stock/options of Google. There are hundreds of ex-Microsoft, retired secretaries that are millionaires. In sum, ordinary people own most of American corporations today.

201 posted on 07/08/2007 6:26:24 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
This is not just about jobs. If US citizens become a tiny minority in technical fields, China is looking for a chance to surpass us militarily.

I agree with you. Luckily China is too much of a "crap-shack" country to attract talent.

202 posted on 07/09/2007 7:55:25 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: nyconse
I know plenty of people who would be happy to make $60,000.

They're all in New York?

203 posted on 07/09/2007 7:56:33 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
>>This is not just about jobs. If US citizens become a tiny minority in technical fields, China is looking for a chance to surpass us militarily.

I agree with you. Luckily China is too much of a "crap-shack" country to attract talent.<<

There are plenty of Chinese immigrants already in Vancouver. I expect more to go there after Gates opens shop there. Make no mistake, China has a talented and dedicated espionage system. I am not claiming that Chinese aliens are the only danger, but their loyalty to their original homeland is one of the tools Chinese espionage uses.

Gates will not hire foreigners for defense jobs, but I wonder about the vulnerability of our commercial systems as well. Microsoft is working on mysterious security features of certain processors. I wonder if the Chinese already have the some of internal specs of Trusted Platform Module (TPM). TPM seems to be a work in progress, so they would need more info.

Also, MS rubs elbows with DHS, etc:

JANUARY 26, 2007 | It was the best- and worst-kept secret in the security industry this week: A closed-door summit held today and yesterday at Microsoft's headquarters that brought together representatives from antivirus and other security vendors, CERT organizations, the military, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, FBI, SANS, ISPs, Cisco, academia -- and Microsoft, of course.

Microsoft's 'Secret' Security Summit
204 posted on 07/09/2007 9:58:43 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

No, I live in Georgia right now-moving to Wisconsin in a couple of weeks (transfer). However, I have friend all over. I went to college at UConn-my husband went to Manhattan. If you are saying MS can’t get skilled people to work for 60 K in New York. This might be true. Since, it is extremely hard to live on 60 K there. MS. should pay a fair wage based on the area you live in...you just made my point. MS wants to pay substandard wages-not find the best and the brightest.


205 posted on 07/09/2007 11:29:50 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: dennisw

Perhaps more high IQ American students would major in IT and other disciplines if they didn’t have their jobs stolen by foreigners-admitted to H1B programs for jobs that American can and will do-if given the opportunity. The H1B program should not even exist in my opinion.


206 posted on 07/09/2007 11:33:22 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: TopQuark

I would feel better if the CEO hadn’t given herself a raise when all this was going on. I would feel better if the top brass didn’t give themselves every little perk available. If they are going to hire workers from overseas, then let them pack up and leave. America is a great country-very stable. Let them find out what it is like to do business in India. Why should we pay for infrastructure, medical etc for these companies-no welfare not even for corporations.


207 posted on 07/09/2007 11:37:32 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

We have 100’s of Chinese working here. On some floors of a couple buildings you never hear English spoken, only Mandarin Chinese.

The folks I’ve talked to say they’ll left family behind but they’re never going back.

But that’s what you’d expect from a spy. There could easily be dozens of spies here.


208 posted on 07/09/2007 11:37:32 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Myrddin

I know about this sort of abuse. This is why I do not want an H1B visa program at all.


209 posted on 07/09/2007 11:39:21 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse

As I said in my post, I’m in Illinois.

$60,000 a year is good money for an entry-level job. The last guy I made an offer to wanted $250,000 a year.

I can get contract labor with the same skills this guy had for $40,000 a year.

So we filled our permanent positions with foreigners who would accept entry-level positions for $60,000 a year.

If MS is seeing what we’re seeing I’m not surprised at what they did.


210 posted on 07/09/2007 11:41:55 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Gates will not hire foreigners for defense jobs, but I wonder about the vulnerability of our commercial systems as well.

It matters not a bit if Bill Gates doesn't hire foreigners for "defense" jobs.

When he gives all of the Windows source code to the Chicoms, it doesn't matter who is sitting at a desk in Redmond.

This is the same person who said that they couldn't show snippets of source code during the anti-trust trial because of "national security concerns."

Make no mistake. This article is about a corporation run by international socialists whining and crying (and very publicly mind you) about how the evil capitalist American system is hurting poor defenseless Microsoft.

211 posted on 07/09/2007 12:12:36 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Really, this is hard to believe. Perhaps I should send you some names. Exactly what kind of job were you advertising. Did you use an agency, advertise,recruit from colleges, word of mouth? Do you offer any sort of benefits? Perhaps your methods were insufficient to reach qualified applicants.

Honestly, if I had my way-except in very unusual circumstances, I would have an H1B visa program.


212 posted on 07/09/2007 1:04:01 PM PDT by nyconse
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