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Fourth Finds Times in Melancholy Mood: America Falls Short in World's View
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 07/04/2007 4:43:04 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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1 posted on 07/04/2007 4:43:07 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

On 4th of July, NY Times finds America not living up to world’s expectations. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 07/04/2007 4:44:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did we honestly expect anything else?


3 posted on 07/04/2007 4:47:42 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest


4 posted on 07/04/2007 4:49:02 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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P.S. We’re not living up to the principles of the Declaration of Independence? We don’t behave in a way that makes our freedom “compelling to others”? I guess that’s why no one wants to immigrate to the United States


5 posted on 07/04/2007 4:49:19 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I love my country above all other lands. She is a light to the world and a source of hope and consolation to those seeking freedom every where. God bless America this July 4th and forevermore!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 07/04/2007 4:51:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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7 posted on 07/04/2007 4:55:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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Did we honestly expect anything else?

Nope. As I said in the opening line, I was sure the Times would pull something like this. The only suspense was in just what kind of anti-American line they would take.

8 posted on 07/04/2007 4:57:22 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: goldstategop; cardinal4

Upon firing up my computer every morning, I go right to “what_do_they_think_of_us_in_europe_today.net” and click on “France,” “Germany,” or “Italy” inter alia. If our approval drops below 30% for that day for any of our allies, I simply go to pieces.


9 posted on 07/04/2007 4:59:29 AM PDT by Ax
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Personally, I abhor the movement of "legitimate American businesses" and production facilities to foreign shores.....but I make an exception for the NYT.......

The offices, managers, reporters, and presses should move to Pakistan, North Korea, Iran, Sudan, Ethiopia, or wherever their editorial board locates a common ideology.......

......Gee....do I sense a silent scream by the NYT employees? Guess they crave freedom of the press as long as they control the press.

BTW....the Houston Comical should follow the Times to foreign shores of the like-minded.

10 posted on 07/04/2007 5:01:03 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That POS newspaper did what we all expected it to do and it does every day. Write anti-american articles. Doing thier part to brainwash Americans into an eternal guilt for capitalism, freedom and power. Rest assured, the NYT is slowly becoming as irrelevent as Carter.


11 posted on 07/04/2007 5:01:37 AM PDT by albie
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LEAKING AMERICAN SECRETS IN THE PAST


12 posted on 07/04/2007 5:04:32 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
“America Falls Short in World’s View”

Hey World... **** YOU! “and you know wut I’m talkin’ ‘bout”!

LLS

13 posted on 07/04/2007 5:15:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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LOL. You, too? I thought I was the only one. ;-)


14 posted on 07/04/2007 5:36:55 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

As for European opinion of America, I really don’t care what a stagnant, nihilist, and self destructing culture, thinks about us. To paraphrase Jackie Mason, the USA is the worst country in the world, except for the rest of the countries in the world.


15 posted on 07/04/2007 5:38:24 AM PDT by Paradox (Foreign Policy suggestions from Jimmy Carter are like Beauty Tips from Rosie O'Donnell)
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To: mainepatsfan

Not from the NAGS who run the editorial page, or the bathhouse boys in their “newsroom”.

Posers all, sad, unhappy personal lives trying to make the rest of us as miserable.


16 posted on 07/04/2007 5:46:45 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
P.S. We’re not living up to the principles of the Declaration of Independence? We don’t behave in a way that makes our freedom “compelling to others”? I guess that’s why no one wants to immigrate to the United States.

Precisely. For some reason, more than a million people annually brave life and limb to get here illegally across our southern border and millions more legal immigrants wait patiently in line overseas for years to get here. Today, one in every eight residents of this country is foreign-born and that number will go to one in seven in several years.

The NYT editorial reminds me of Jimmy Carter's 1979 Malaise Speech. Some excerpts:

"The confidence that we have always had as a people is not simply some romantic dream or a proverb in a dusty book that we read just on the Fourth of July. It is the idea which founded our Nation and has guided our development as a people. Confidence in the future has supported everything else -- public institutions and private enterprise, our own families, and the very Constitution of the United States. Confidence has defined our course and has served as a link between generations. We've always believed in something called progress. We've always had a faith that the days of our children would be better than our own."

"Our people are losing that faith, not only in government itself but in the ability as citizens to serve as the ultimate rulers and shapers of our democracy. As a people we know our past and we are proud of it. Our progress has been part of the living history of America, even the world. We always believed that we were part of a great movement of humanity itself called democracy, involved in the search for freedom, and that belief has always strengthened us in our purpose. But just as we are losing our confidence in the future, we are also beginning to close the door on our past."

"In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We've learned that piling up material goods cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose."

"The symptoms of this crisis of the American spirit are all around us. For the first time in the history of our country a majority of our people believe that the next 5 years will be worse than the past 5 years. Two-thirds of our people do not even vote. The productivity of American workers is actually dropping, and the willingness of Americans to save for the future has fallen below that of all other people in the Western world."

Funny, but not long after Carter left office in ignominious defeat capped by the Iran Hostage Crisis of 444 days, the America he described [perceived] turned around immediately under Ronald Reagan. The glum, defeatist view of America held by many of the political and media elites reflects more on them than it does this country, which still remains the shining city on the hill to the vast majority of people on this planet. They vote with their feet.

17 posted on 07/04/2007 5:59:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Nonsense like this is why the NY Slimes can go urinate upwards on a free-hanging rope.


18 posted on 07/04/2007 6:00:45 AM PDT by Mr Inviso (Used to be a Mitt guy, until Thompson started, He's a better choice, in my opinion.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

...as if I needed ANOTHER reason to detest those anti-American *sswipes on 43rd Street. But you found one.


19 posted on 07/04/2007 6:01:37 AM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

What the world thinks of America is not important. What is important is that Americans fight to keep their own freedoms and liberties. They are slipping away. Like all captive people we are standing by doing nothing.


20 posted on 07/04/2007 6:01:42 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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