If 'Islamist' is out, what do we call them?

Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 7/4/07 | Andrew Marr

[VA Voter]

If it were proved that highly qualified, ambitious doctors were Islamist mass-murder plotters, it would put a hole through another comforting theory - that this is "all about" under-employed young men of low self-esteem and educational attainments.

It is comforting, because it suggests that al-Qa'eda can be defeated by more money spent on sixth-form colleges. But it now joins the theory that this is "all about" the misdemeanours of the House of Saud, or "all about" the persecution of the Palestinians. All of these things matter, and they are all part of the picture, but it is never a bad idea to take your enemy at his word.

So when the terror websites gloat about killing "slags" who have the temerity to attend nightclubs, or look forward to the imposition of sharia in the West, and attack our corrupt democratic values, shouldn't we take that seriously? It isn't about oil or an underclass or the crimes of Western nations. It's about values. It's about exactly what they say it's about.

On Start the Week on Monday, all the distinguished guests, including the philosopher John Gray and the historian Eric Hobsbawm, vehemently agreed that the word "Islamist", which I have used at the top of this column, was wrong and dangerous. It implied a strong link to Islam, which was unfair. I thought the distinction between "Islamic" and "Islamist" was enough: but if we need a new and more accurate word for extremist Muslims, what is it?

Any particular strain of Islam, such as Wahhabism, is only the more lethally libelled if you try to narrow things that way. The trouble with looking for bland words is that you lose touch with reality. You'll end up by calling them Powd-ists (People of Whom we Disapprove) or Bacromists (Bad Cross Men). All sensible suggestions welcome. Meanwhile, it's our patriotic duty to single out the nearest nightclub, and get along there as soon as possible.

[popdonnelly]

How about Fascists? That’s descriptive, and even our Leftist friends can understand it.

[The Great RJ]

Call them what they are, Islamic Fascists. However to be PC how about Mazis...Muslim Nazis?

[pigsmith]

"The fruits of the Koran are so persistently evil throughout a millenia of history that one wonders whether can clearly see the document is actually demonic in its methods and intent."

Fixed it for ya.

[TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl]

If 'Islamist' is out, what do we call them?

Late for chow?

[VA Voter]

So far it is a tie between #10 & 42:

Mazis (Muslim Nazis) and TWWTBUUs...(pronounced “twitboos”)
Those Who Want To Blow Us Up

Your vote?

[pacelvi]

I use the term Jihadi. This term has the advantage of not needing the standard 4968429428 word disclaimer that not all Jihadis are terrorists.. because , well.. all of them are.

[Sig Sauer P220]

I like low-life POS killers.

[G Larry]

“OTN” = Other Than Normal

[Wisconsin]

Mindermasts

[Verloona Ti]

I like the phrase “Koranimals”. I believe it was coined either here or on LGF. Succinct and to the point.

[G Larry]

Human reality:
Another major terrorist attack or series of disruptive attacks will result in severe vigilantism.
Political reality:
Leaders see this coming and want minimize the possibility.
Possible but unlikely solution:
If there are “moderate Muslims” they must come out NOW and denounce terrorist acts and methods wherever and whenever they occur.
Prediction:
Terrorist acts will become severe and frequent enough to drive an extended, violent reaction.

[G Larry]

Hmm..perhaps I need another cup of coffee, but please explain.
Also, see my more serious post #51.

[realcleanguy]

Ah, Yes, we must try to show our love and tolerance of those who would do anything to kill people.

Let’s see:

Mohammebombs

Ahksplosives

Jihbombists

Allabombists

Allahkillers

MeccaMunitionists

Al Asqa Bodyparts inc.

You know, if they want to die for allah the moon god, why don’t they just jump in front of a bus?

[angkor]

Fixed it for ya.

Yes you did. Thanks.

Normally I'm more direct in calling the Koran what it is, a demonic work conceived by Satan himself.

[PISANO]

We could address the Islamists perps who commit these acts of terrorism something like this:

Today a member of the "RELIGION of PEACE" donned a suicide vest and committed mass murder in a market place full of women and children. Ali Abu [or whoever] a member of the RELIGION of PEACE shouted Allahu Akbar right before he detonated the bomb, killing 55 women and children.

The RELIGION of PEACE has claimed responsibility for this horrendous act on it's website.

And in a statement by OBL, a member of the RELIGION of PEACE, he said that the killing of women and children is necessary to punish the infidels until all bow to Allah and join the "RELIGION of PEACE".

[Noumenon]

I’d just liketo call them ‘dead’.

[Ping-Pong]

Targets

Love it!!!

[Ping-Pong]

I think you need to add “Little Sheet Heads” and “Targets” to that list and then vote. (#5 & #26)

[BIGLOOK]

I used to call them ‘The Children of Cain’. Not just the terrorists but all. Didn’t seem to catch on though.

[denydenydeny]

the historian Eric Hobsbawm

A longtime Communist.