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President Bush Commutes Libby's sentence

Posted on 07/02/2007 2:45:21 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Edited on 07/02/2007 3:05:31 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: PhiKapMom
You can bet all the money in the bank that first person Novak called was Rove. You can also take it to the bank that Rove got cute on this with some other reporters.

Uh, yeah, sure. Especially since it was never established that any crime was committed regarding revealing Plame's name.

You have freep mail coming shortly!

If you can't post it in the open forum, don't bother.

721 posted on 07/03/2007 9:44:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: dirtboy

I’m noticing a pattern.

Every thread here on FR turns into a “why we hate Bush because of the borders” forum by certain posters.

I’m just sayin......


722 posted on 07/03/2007 9:50:50 AM PDT by laurie_d
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To: dirtboy

I’m noticing a pattern.

Every thread here on FR turns into a “why we hate Bush because of the borders” forum by certain posters.

I’m just sayin......


723 posted on 07/03/2007 9:50:56 AM PDT by laurie_d
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To: dirtboy

Then I will go pull it and you don’t want to know why I pulled away from this Administration.

Fine with me!


724 posted on 07/03/2007 9:59:08 AM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: dirtboy
So why, then, has Bush only built 13 miles of the 860 mile fence authorized in the bill, even though they admit they have funding for well over 300 miles?

That is what I yelled out as I ripped up the letter and tossed it in the trash.
725 posted on 07/03/2007 10:01:06 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: PhiKapMom
Then I will go pull it and you don’t want to know why I pulled away from this Administration.

Well, I remember your breathless promoting of a big Duncan Hunter "scandal" a few months back that turned out to be completely bogus.

And I know you tried to take anger at the Bush Admin and turn it against Fred, despite your promise when you came back to not comment on presidential campaigns since you are involved in Rudy's.

So pardon me if I don't take your latest breathless commentary at face value. That's what happens when you play games - you lose credibility.

726 posted on 07/03/2007 10:05:39 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: laurie_d; dirtboy
It was I who brought up the immigration issue, so blast me, not dirtboy. I did so to make a point on the RNC, since the letter I received came from them. And if you are not familiar with my posting, I am not a Bush-hater by any means.
727 posted on 07/03/2007 10:11:56 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi
"Husbands for Hillary"

How about "Mistresses for Hillary" and "Rape Victims for Hillary" and "Harassed Working Women for Hillary"......

There are lots of groups that should be grateful to Shrillery for her bold and honest work on their behalf. /s
728 posted on 07/03/2007 10:13:55 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: laurie_d
I’m noticing a pattern. Every thread here on FR turns into a “why we hate Bush because of the borders” forum by certain posters.

I'm noticing a pattern, too.

There are fewer and fewer Bush-bots around lately. I agree with Bush's commutation decision - it gives Scooter a chance to get the verdict overturned. A pardon would not do that.

However, another poster showed the content of a RNC fundraising letter which was quite shameless. So I commented on that shamelessness. If Bush wants the base back, he will need to do more than commute a prison sentence. He needs to start doing his damn job enforcing our borders.

729 posted on 07/03/2007 10:15:30 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Combat Override Button

I continue to be amazed at the childishness on DU. They are clearly angry about this as we might be if the roles were reversed (witness Clinton). However, I think we are adult enough to realize that the President has the constitutional authority to commute/pardon and it is not reviewable. That is, we may dislike it but that is just the way things are. We may use the occasion to make great political noise.

Most of the posts on DU are just rants calling for impeachment. They are completely illogical and in a rage. I read through hundreds of posts and there was only one acknowledgement that Bush can legally do this. In the past I have seen some of the folks post over there that are obviously well-read. Most are just screaming children. I would like to know the demographics of that group. They have to be mainly ignorant16 – 22 year olds or older washouts from the 60’s.

Unfortunately for us these types on the Left are not allowed to take center stage. If they were, it would be the end of the Democrat party. What a bunch of whackos.


730 posted on 07/03/2007 10:16:05 AM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: Miss Didi

I’m not blasting anyone. Just making an observation.


731 posted on 07/03/2007 10:16:09 AM PDT by laurie_d
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To: Combat Override Button

I think the whole rotten, co-opted media should be held accountable for selling out and permitting themselves to be spoon-fed half-truths and rumors from political hack scumbags in the first place. Zero integrity merits zero respect.

Forget about partisan politics for a moment: if you’d ever known anyone who’s done covert work for a federal agency, I bet you’d take this more seriously. Mishandling classified information should be punished to the fullest extent of the law— I don’t care who does it. Brave men and women who serve their country as undercover operatives deserve far better than to have their life thrown away as expendable pawn in a politican’s chess game. Shameful.

Scooter Libby and Sandy Berger should be cellmates.


732 posted on 07/03/2007 10:21:29 AM PDT by honeybadger
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To: Combat Override Button

I couldn’t agree more. Wouldn’t it be great to showcase the DU types every night?

“This is your party, democrats”.

The mostly elderly democrats, especially those in the rust belt, haven’t a clue about the types on DU. That’s why the drive by media won’t showcase them.


733 posted on 07/03/2007 10:21:40 AM PDT by laurie_d
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To: dirtboy

dirtboy, when the President does something right, I’m going to say he’s done something right.

This was something right.

Move along.


734 posted on 07/03/2007 10:23:54 AM PDT by laurie_d
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To: laurie_d
I apologize, laurie. The issue is still a hot one and on everyone’s mind, I guess.
735 posted on 07/03/2007 10:36:07 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: honeybadger

Firstly I would still maintain that the President has every right to pardon Libby regardless of what Libby did. It doesn’t mean it is popular or even fair but it is the way it is. Partisan politics has nothing to do with it.

Beyond that, Libby didn’t mishandle classified information. That was not what he was convicted of or even accused of. The issue of the status of Plame’s status wasn’t even discussed. The prosecutor knew who leaked the info before the case started and it was never proven if the leak was even illegal. That is what makes this case so silly IMO. It was a process crime... as much as others want to make it about leaking the name of a covert agent, that isn’t what Libby was convicted of.

Now… if she was proven to be undercover and the leak was proven to be illegal and Libby was the one that leaked… then we might have a reason to complain. And complain is all we could do because again, the President has the authority to commute/pardon.

I would agree that mishandling classified information should be punished. I wish Bush would have taken a stand with this a long time ago with all of the leaks about the war coming from the Pentagon, Dept of State and Congress. This has shamefully not happened. I don’t claim to know the reasons why… the gov’t is big and difficult to shape, even if you are the President.


736 posted on 07/03/2007 10:59:13 AM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: ConservativeMan55
Critics of the investigation have argued that a special counsel should not have been appointed, nor should the investigation have been pursued after the Justice Department learned who leaked Ms. Plame’s name to columnist Robert Novak.

I have to ask...who did leak Ms. Plame's name to columnist Robert Novak?

737 posted on 07/03/2007 12:26:26 PM PDT by joseph20
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To: laurie_d
"You say you want a revolution...well..you know...we all wanna change the world." LOL. What a bunch of DUmmies right? Never mind the likes of Marc Rich and other ilk that Clintoon pardoned. Kudos to Drudge for pointing that out.
738 posted on 07/03/2007 12:32:03 PM PDT by LinuxRocks
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To: joseph20

The leak was from Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.


739 posted on 07/03/2007 12:33:43 PM PDT by Combat Override Button
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To: Combat Override Button

I’m having trouble verifying that as a fact. Link?


740 posted on 07/03/2007 12:47:08 PM PDT by joseph20
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