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Victor Davis Hanson: A World in Flux. Immigration Implosion. Making the Middle East Irrelevant
pajamasmedia.com ^ | June 29, 2007 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/02/2007 6:33:48 AM PDT by Tolik

Immigration Implosion

The President never understood why so many Americans were furious about the bill—witness the administration’s condescension toward, and abuse of, its critics.

There is an elemental anger over the issue, even if poorly articulated and sometimes contradictory. But the furor arises from a weariness with 5-pound bilingual phone books or having to select English over the phone as the preferred language...

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Where do we go from here? First, close the border and all good things arise—more assimilation and integration, less identity politics, higher wages for low-paid American citizens, renewed respect for the law, and a warning to Mexico we will not subsidize its own failure to reform. When the number of illegals is static, the forces of the maligned melting pot will resume. And we will have time to sort out “earned citizenship”, guest workers, and all the other contentious issues that were to be snuck into law under the current legislation—but only when the forces of apartheid are stopped through border security.

Making the Middle East Irrelevant

It happened once before. By 1500 the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire seemed unstoppable, especially when the West was trisected by Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox sectarianism. The Sultan’s galleys roamed even throughout the Western Mediterranean and with impunity raided the Italian coast. But after Lepanto (1571), and by the end of the 16th century— despite the acquisition of Cyprus and with later inroads into eastern Europe, Austria, and more islands still to come—the handwriting for the Turks was on the wall.

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 The Mediterranean was soon seen as hardly the nexus of global wealth and communications (in these pre-Suez days, it was more a bottle-neck that led to nowhere), and so the Ottomans became increasingly irrelevant.

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Correspondence. Some topics readers wrote about:

RE: The Candidates

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Chickenhawkism

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Angry readers

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; congress; deathofthegop; immigrantlist; immigration; vdh; victordavishanson

1 posted on 07/02/2007 6:33:50 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: neverdem; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

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                NRO archive: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp
                Pajamasmedia:
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2 posted on 07/02/2007 6:34:29 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Bush is unbalanced. He pursues a brutal war in Iraq that kills Americans and Iraqis, but won’t do anything to close the borders of the USA to terrorists and to profile members of the death cult.


3 posted on 07/02/2007 6:36:33 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Expel The evil and inhuman proponents of death and destruction)
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To: Tolik
By 1500 the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire seemed unstoppable, especially when the West was trisected by Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox sectarianism.

Not very well worded. In 1500 Martin Luther was 16 years old, and apparently destined for a career as a lawyer.

The Reformation didn't really get going till well into the 1520s.

4 posted on 07/02/2007 7:12:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Jan Hus (1370-1415)
5 posted on 07/02/2007 7:18:21 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Tolik
We discussed Hanson yesterday on the Sunday tv talk show thread. He is nothing short of brilliant.
6 posted on 07/02/2007 7:21:45 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: F-117A

The Hussites are very interesting, but were not very relevant by 1500.


7 posted on 07/02/2007 7:24:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: Tolik
Thanks for keeping me on your ping list. I know that I might be bragging a bit, but I was able to meet and talk to VDH about a year ago at an ISI event in Rancho Sante Fe, CA. VDH autographed a couple of his books for me. Anyways, here's a pic with me (on the left) talking politics with VDH (on the right.) That was a great Saturday seminar in Rancho Sante Fe. VDH's speeches are just as insightful as his writing... Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
8 posted on 07/02/2007 7:41:24 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

You speak, he listens. Now we know the source of his insight! LOL, I am just being jealous. Very jealous.


9 posted on 07/02/2007 9:56:06 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: DogByte6RER

I am envious.


10 posted on 07/02/2007 9:57:53 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

“There is an elemental anger over the issue, even if poorly articulated and sometimes contradictory. But the furor arises from a weariness with 5-pound bilingual phone books or having to select English over the phone as the preferred language... “

Or going to Home Depot or Lowes and having packages turned so Spanish is in front (are the stock boys doing that on purpose?) and hearing PA announcements in Spanish...

I wish there some english-only alternatives.

Hansen has hit upon all the little things that infuriate me and most other americans.


11 posted on 07/02/2007 10:13:39 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Tolik; All

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Republican National Committee
310 First Street, SE Washington, D.C. 20003
phone: 202.863.8500 | fax: 202.863.8820 | e-mail: info@gop.com


12 posted on 07/02/2007 2:58:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: Tolik
As I remember...

I was talking with VDH after he made his presentation.

He was talking about the justifications and the need to fight and win in Afghanistan and Iraq.

As you obviously know...VDH regularly makes these points in his essays about the need for liberal (sic) Western democracies to stand and face the Islamofascist threat head on.

The manner in which he made his case was so crystal clear that “even a caveman” would understand and agree.

I was telling VDH how frustrating it was that the White House and President Bush had NOT made the same points repeatedly in public.

I think that what I find so frustrating about Bush is his inability to articulate our need to be in the Middle East and fighting the jihadis on their turf. If this was communicated in the manner that VDH made his presentation, then public support for the war and for Bush would be much higher.

I even (half seriously) suggested to VDH that he go to work as the director of White House Communications or as the White House Press Secretary. He chuckled a bit and said that he agrees with me that Bush and the White House have been poor communicators. He was somewhat hopeful in that about a year ago Tony Snow had just come on board as White House spokesman.

Anyways...that was pretty much the gist of our conversation. He has a great mind. Other excellent professors who were also there that day included Professor Bruce Thornton from Fresno State and Professor Brad Birzner from Hillsdale College.

If you are interested in attending these ISI seminars, check out the following site for ISI:

http://www.isi.org

Their seminars are offered at various locations and year round. I am a great fan of ISI and I know that you would enjoy their programs as well since you are so big on VDH.

Finally, at last year’s seminar, I had VDH autograph my copies of “A War Like No Other” and “Mexifornia.”

P.S. I attended another ISI seminar in Rancho Santa Fe just last month. While VDH and Bruce Thornton were not there, Brad Birzner was there again. The topic of the seminar last month was “Propsects for Conservatism.” Birzner covered the conservative movement after WWII specifically dealing with the Cold War and the the fight against communism. Birzner identified the three individuals he believed were the lynch-pins in ending the Cold War: Pope John Paul II, Ronald Reagan and Alexander Solzenitzen. The story he told about Pope John Paul and the Pope’s tale of a Catholic priest who was executed at Auschwitz nearly brought tears to my eyes.

Sorry to go so long...but I want to emphasize the great things being done by ISI and I hope that you check out ISI. ISI serves primarily as a resource for college students and professors who are engaged in conservative thought as well as providing a foil to all of the leftist/Marxist junk that comes out of so many college campuses nowadays. This organization is great for deep thinkers in the conservative movement.

13 posted on 07/03/2007 12:06:57 AM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Thank you for a detailed report. Really appreciate it.

I checked the website - good source. Some events are on a reachable distance from me. Thank you.

Misunderstimating the info-war is one of the biggest blunders of Bush and his administration. Its never easy, MSM hostility is a given, but they are basically not fighting the war of ideas. As we all know advertisements work. Propaganda works. Not countering the propaganda from the Left is a mistake.


14 posted on 07/03/2007 11:08:50 AM PDT by Tolik
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