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To: ZacandPook

Oh, Contrare. There is ample evidence of Hatfill’s involvement in the Anthrax mailings. I have physical evidence in my possession to back that up. Funny thing though, the FBI refuses to this day to investigate my evidence.
What I believe has happened in the FBI/Hatfill affair is that there are some honest agents in the FBI that realized some not so honest agents in the FBI were covering this thing up. So the honest agents started leaking info about Hatfill to the public.
The keys to this case are the deaths of Otillie Lundgren and Cathy Nguyen. They have something in common and the FBI was informed of this before Otillie died.
As for your comment about Ed Flake doing a wonderful job. Give me a break. Ed is nothing more than a Hatfill apologist at best. And his constant drivel about coatings is a total BORE!


169 posted on 07/17/2007 5:59:43 AM PDT by teslashenchman
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To: teslashenchman

Evidence that Hatfill visited the location of his victims, you say, after not receiving news they had been infected is something you should have no problem in sharing with us now. Given we know that the FBI spent $250,000 just to drain the pond, we know they have “left no stone unturned.”

Perhaps SAIC timesheets contradicted your claim as to his whereabouts. Have you seen his timesheets?

Or perhaps they already know of his visit to that locale.

FBI Special Agents and Postal Inspectors on the Task Force would have no motive to cover anything up. They are just under a lot of pressure to solve the matter. It’s got to be very frustrating and boring not to cross the finish line. Given the compartmentalization that was imposed between the two squads after the leaking, it may very well be true that the divergence in opinion within the Task Force was fed by which squad the investigator was on. Some leaking was done at a high level.

The more interesting thing to make about Ed’s criticisms of BHR is that he has always had the same bioevangelist theory. In announcing his bioevangelist he linked and endorsed her webpage. He then was surprised and bummed it turned out to be some guy he had never heard of. Instead, he imagines the perp as hooked up with a former Battelle employee that the FBI ruled out 6 years ago. He has zero evidence. But his theory isn’t as nearly as intriguing as a Hatfill theory.

If you’re not going to share what you think is probative, then there’s no way of showing you it contradicts SAIC timecards or that it is redundant with what is known about his travel. Similarly, there is no way to be persuaded by it. Here, at the FR, we are all from the “show me” state. If this is the sort of evidence that causes someone to subscribe to a Hatfill theory, then it is corroborative that there is no “there there.”

Ed recognized his theory that the letters were written by a First Grader —which he borrowed from someone on a news group — was “wild speculation” (his phrase). Then lo and behold, it has been transformed into FACT.
That illustrates “cognitive rigidity” (his phrase).


170 posted on 07/17/2007 6:44:29 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: teslashenchman

Evidence that Hatfill visited the location of his victims, you say, after not receiving news they had been infected is something you should have no problem in sharing with us now. Given we know that the FBI spent $250,000 just to drain the pond, we know they have “left no stone unturned.”

Perhaps SAIC timesheets contradicted your claim as to his whereabouts. Have you seen his timesheets?

Or perhaps they already know of his visit to that locale.

FBI Special Agents and Postal Inspectors on the Task Force would have no motive to cover anything up. They are just under a lot of pressure to solve the matter. It’s got to be very frustrating and boring not to cross the finish line. Given the compartmentalization that was imposed between the two squads after the leaking, it may very well be true that the divergence in opinion within the Task Force was fed by which squad the investigator was on. Some leaking was done at a high level.

The more interesting thing to make about Ed’s criticisms of BHR is that he has always had the same bioevangelist theory. In announcing his bioevangelist he linked and endorsed her webpage. He then was surprised and bummed it turned out to be some guy he had never heard of. Instead, he imagines the perp as hooked up with a former Battelle employee that the FBI ruled out 6 years ago. He has zero evidence. But his theory isn’t as nearly as intriguing as a Hatfill theory.

If you’re not going to share what you think is probative, then there’s no way of showing you it contradicts SAIC timecards or that it is redundant with what is known about his travel. Similarly, there is no way to be persuaded by it. Here, at the FR, we are all from the “show me” state. If this is the sort of evidence that causes someone to subscribe to a Hatfill theory, then it is corroborative that there is no “there there.”

Ed recognized his theory that the letters were written by a First Grader —which he borrowed from someone on a news group — was “wild speculation” (his phrase). Then lo and behold, it has been transformed into FACT.
That illustrates “cognitive rigidity” (his phrase).


171 posted on 07/17/2007 6:44:33 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: teslashenchman
Ummm, you signed up here on Free Republic yesterday just for the sole purpose of making bullshit claims that you have physical evidence of Hatfill's guilt?

Who do you work for, the New York Times or something? Get lost, troll.

172 posted on 07/17/2007 7:51:57 AM PDT by jpl (Dear Al Gore: it's 3:00 A.M., do you know where your drug addicted son is?)
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To: teslashenchman
There is ample evidence of Hatfill’s involvement in the Anthrax mailings. I have physical evidence in my possession to back that up. Funny thing though, the FBI refuses to this day to investigate my evidence.

This is just a guess, but I suspect that this "evidence" consists of you seeing hidden ghostly images in the photos of the anthrax letters, images which you feel are pictures of the culprits. I've had a number of people contacts me about their beliefs that there are hidden images in the photos of the anthrax letters. To see an example, CLICK HERE. (In reality, the "images" are most likely just compression artifacts which are caused by using a bad compression ratio when compressing .TIF images down to .JPG images and then decompressing the .JPG images again. The random compression artifacts are like ink blot tests which tell us more about thought processes of the person seeing the images than what is actually in the images.)

All the people who see these "hidden images" complain that the FBI won't take them seriously. I wonder why. One guy saw a camel with a bowl on its back and steam coming out of the bowl. He wanted the FBI to investigate the meaning of that image.

The keys to this case are the deaths of Otillie Lundgren and Cathy Nguyen. They have something in common and the FBI was informed of this

Yes, it was reported that they both used the same perfume which they purchased from Walgreens. So, evidently that must indicate some kind of connection. It can't just be the meaningless fact that a lot of older women shop at Walgreens and buy their perfumes there.

Ed is nothing more than a Hatfill apologist at best.

It's interesting that you consider me a "Hatfill apologist" because I say the facts indicate that Dr. Hatfill had nothing to do with the anthrax mailings. And ZacandPook seems to consider me a "al Qaeda apologist" because I say the facts indicate that al Qaeda had nothing to do with the anthrax mailings.

That must mean I'm also a "Saddam Hussein apologist" because I say the facts indicate that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the anthrax mailings.

And I must also be an "FBI apologist" because I say the facts indicate that they are right about there being no coatings on the spores.

I apologize if I've missed any others for whom I am an "apologist." :-)

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

173 posted on 07/17/2007 7:52:18 AM PDT by EdLake
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