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Japan is a victim

Unbelievable...
1 posted on 06/30/2007 7:49:12 AM PDT by weef
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To: weef

Well said Defense Minister Fumio Kyuma. A voice of reason in Japan, where too many still won’t face the truth of WWII.


2 posted on 06/30/2007 7:51:36 AM PDT by SolidWood (UN delenda est.)
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To: weef

I think the defense minister got it right. Not the victim guy.

But most Japanese I know (when they talk about it) would agree with the defense minister.

I’m kinda dreaming of an Iranian defense minister twenty years from now saying, “Yeah, George Bush nuked us back in 2007, but it couldn’t be helped, ‘cause we were such islamonazi a$$holes back then”...


3 posted on 06/30/2007 7:52:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: weef

Hey,American lives are the only lives of value in a situation like the Pacific war. he should be happy we didn’t target the Imperial Palace when we easily could have.


4 posted on 06/30/2007 7:53:30 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (If there's lead in the air,there's hope.)
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Scary is what it is. Tojo and his henchmen were evil on a par with Stalin and Hitler. Let no one forget.


5 posted on 06/30/2007 7:55:00 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: weef
It also saved the lives of approximately 11,000,000 Japanese. Plus over 1,000,000 Americans. And it allowed Japan to be a free country. The USSR may have decided to keep 1/2 after they entered the war if it had not ended when it did.

The winning of war means PEACE not negotiations which never have ended in peace.

6 posted on 06/30/2007 7:55:06 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: weef
Japan went to war -they got a war - we ended it!

Nuff said.

8 posted on 06/30/2007 7:56:30 AM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: weef

shikata ga nai, ne


9 posted on 06/30/2007 7:57:43 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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"The U.S. justifies the bombings saying they saved many American lives," said Nobuo Miyake, 78, director-general of a group of victims living in Tokyo. "It's outrageous for a Japanese politician to voice such thinking.

The Americans placed about as much value on Japanese lives as did Japan's military machine. If Miyake has a problem its with his own country's history.

10 posted on 06/30/2007 7:58:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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"The U.S. justifies the bombings saying they saved many American lives," said Nobuo Miyake, 78, director-general of a group of victims living in Tokyo. "It's outrageous for a Japanese politician to voice such thinking. Japan is a victim."

Uh...it also saved several MILLION Japnese lives. Japnan was a victim...a victim of its own leaders and a victim of themselves for engaging in such a war of conquest.

11 posted on 06/30/2007 7:58:44 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Stalin was to invade the northern part of Japan. So these wonderful oriental gentlemen ought to be thankful there is not a DMZ seperating South Japan from North Japan, and NJ is home to millions of backwards, poor, hideously underfed short commies eating pine cones for fun.


14 posted on 06/30/2007 8:00:05 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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From The Last Great Victory: The End of World War Ii, July-August 1945, by Stanley Weintraub.

It was the afternoon of August 5, 1945. To a group of six hundred army officers assigned to the Hiroshima garrison, Professor Yoshitaka Mimura of Hiroshima Bunri University, a theoretical physicist, was explaining the scientific possibilities of new weapons which might reverse the tide of war. Japan had little Navy or Air Force left. Within months a massive invasion of the home islands seemed likely. “Could you tell us, sir”, a young lieutenant colonel asked, “what an atomic bomb is? Is there any possibility that the bomb will be deployed by the end of this war?”

Mimura chalked a rough sketch on the blackboard to illustrate the [nuclear] reactions required. Scientists at Tokyo University, he explained, have “theoretically penetrated” the secrets of nuclear fission. If they could apply their theories practically, an atomic bomb “could be smaller than a piece of caramel candy, but, if exploded five hundred meters above a populated city, it could destroy 200,000 lives.”

“When can we have that bomb?” “Well, it is difficult to say”, Mimura answered, knowing nothing of any Japanese enterprise to apply fission theory to bomb-making. “But I can tell you this much: not before the end of this war.”


16 posted on 06/30/2007 8:00:47 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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Japan also had an atomic bomb project. As did Germany.


17 posted on 06/30/2007 8:00:47 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: weef

given the way the japanese thought, without the bombs that war would have taken a considerably higher toll on the japanese before the war would have ended


18 posted on 06/30/2007 8:00:53 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: weef
Hey just last week they denied that the rape of Nanking happened.
19 posted on 06/30/2007 8:04:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (We stand on the bridge and no one may pass. We go into the dark places....)
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Japan is the country that performed medical experiments on live prisoners of war. They used female prisoners as ‘’comfort women.’’ Japan got what it had coming. They were not innocent victims.


21 posted on 06/30/2007 8:07:53 AM PDT by Menehune56 (Oderint Dum Metuant (Let them hate, so long as they fear - Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)))
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Nobuo Miyake, 78, director-general of a group of victims living in Tokyo. "It's outrageous for a Japanese politician to voice such thinking. Japan is a victim."

It's cr@p like that why .....

(never mind, I don't want to be banned.)

22 posted on 06/30/2007 8:08:22 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Japanese are an amazing island people. But no way did this hyperactive ant colony have enough people to subjugate Asia and take on the USA. By subjugate Asia I mean take over it’s oil and natural resources. Not to rule over all Asia


23 posted on 06/30/2007 8:09:06 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: weef
"The U.S. justifies the bombings saying they saved many American lives," said Nobuo Miyake, 78, director-general of a group of victims living in Tokyo. "It's outrageous for a Japanese politician to voice such thinking. Japan is a victim."

The lack of an organization name made me curious as to who exactly this "Nobu Miyake" is. It turns out that he appears to be a lawyer located in the heart of Japan's government environs in Nagatacho. (Read "K Street" for the American equivalent. Interestingly enough, it appears from his biographical information that he also worked in Washington, D.C. at Mudge, Rose.)

Not to be cynical, but I would point out that when such a lawyer starts labelling "victims", it isn't always just out of touching concern for humanity.

29 posted on 06/30/2007 8:19:28 AM PDT by snowsislander
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The atomic bombs also saved many Japanese lives. The devastation and loss of life from an American invasion of the home islands would have been apocalyptic for Japan. I’d wager that most Japanese alike today would not have been if the bombings had not forced them to surrender.


30 posted on 06/30/2007 8:21:37 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: weef
Japan is a victim

Japan was the perp.

It's like the mother that cries foul when her son, in the midst of an armed robbery in a crowded store - taking aim at a former military man - was shot dead by said military man: "He was a good boy. He had no right to shoot him."

When it whittles down to the bottom line - i,e, thousands more are going to die. Will it be the attackers or the attacked?

In the Defense Chief's words, I see a glimmer of hope - just maybe people and countries can look at things objectively, learn from them and, thereby, take a tiny step forward in the annals of mankind, instead of incessantly having to repeat the lessons because they went unlearned

31 posted on 06/30/2007 8:33:35 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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