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Talk Radio Fails to Stop Amnesty Bill
News By Us ^ | Jun 27, 07 | Andy Selepak

Posted on 06/27/2007 11:32:54 AM PDT by GFritsch

Despite a valiant effort, the power of conservative talk radio was no match for the White House, the Republican and Democratic Parties, and the major media.

The Senate on Tuesday voted to revive the illegal alien amnesty bill by a vote of 64 to 35. Senate leaders are pushing for a final vote of approval by Friday.

One reason for the outcome was the propagandistic ability of supporters of the bill, such as Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, to frame the debate in terms of a “solution” to the immigration problem?the Senate bill?versus rounding up illegals and deporting them in a Hitler-like un-American approach.

In a May 22 column, Robinson said opponents of the bill favored “hunting down millions of men, women and children and forcing them to leave,” a flat-out falsehood.

Robinson also suggested that opponents of the Senate bill were Nazis or fascists.

In essence, supporters of the bill managed to eke out a win by lying about their opponents.

Another factor, of course, was the misguided idea of some Republican Senators that the bill has to be passed in order to give President Bush part of a “legacy.” With the war in Iraq still going badly, Bush is desperate to put his stamp on something?anything?he can claim as a “victory.”

Republicans were playing into the hands of Senator Ted Kennedy, an architect of the bill. On June 24, 2007, the Associated Press quoted Kennedy as saying, “We have a terrible problem in this country that demands an answer.” For Kennedy, one of the main architects of the 1986 amnesty program, that answer once again is amnesty. Kennedy complained that those against amnesty offered no solution. He said, “We know what they’re against. What are they for?”

Taking the Kennedy line one step further, on May 22, 2007, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson concluded that opponents to the amnesty bill only offered Nazi-like deportation. He said opponents of the bill favored a “round ‘em all up, kick ‘em all out,” approach. Robinson called this “indistinguishable from a pogrom.”

The meaning was clear. Pogroms are programs of violence directed against minority groups. The term is usually associated with violence against Jews.

This was a despicable smear. It comes from a columnist for a paper whose top executive, Post chairman Donald E. Graham, is a trustee of a foundation that provides money to an illegal alien support group, CASA of Maryland.

Continuing his attack, Robinson asked, “Would SWAT teams of immigration officers descend on neighborhoods and go door to door? Would they snatch children out of schools? Where would they take these people? To special camps? To the nearest border?”

But deportation was never the alternative to amnesty and Robinson knows it. He concedes that, without the amnesty bill, public pressure will force “border states and gateway cities to develop their own immigration policies.” That implies a tougher approach that will dry up the market for cheap and illegal labor.

R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, has been quoted as saying that if the amnesty bill did not pass, “The consequence of inaction is that more states and cities will target businesses and property owners.” But this is not inaction. It means that there will be pressure on businesses to quit hiring illegals. Josten doesn’t like that. But it is a logical and necessary response to the problem.

Hazleton, Pennsylvania has already passed ordinances to suspend the business licenses of employers who hire illegal aliens, penalize landlords who rent to illegal aliens with fines, and make English the town’s official language. This is effective local government action in response to illegal immigration.

Punishing businesses that hire illegal alien workers to combat illegal immigration is sometimes called attrition though enforcement. If it had happened after the 1986 bill, as it was supposed to, there wouldn’t be 20 million illegal aliens in this country now.

Numbers USA calls Attrition Through Enforcement “the most effective and efficient solution” to the problem. They say it would work “if our government refused to award illegal aliens another amnesty, mandated all employers to verify a person’s eligibility to work here, cracked down on identity fraud, and enabled local police to easily transfer illegal aliens in their custody to the feds.” More about this concept can be seen here.

The idea is to make living illegally in the United States too difficult. When the government, at all levels, from federal to state to local, enforces the laws already on the books, that leaves illegal aliens with no alternative but to leave the country because they can’t find work and don’t receive government social services. According to Numbers USA, there is no need “to round up and deport illegal aliens; they will buy their own bus or plane tickets back home if they can no longer earn a living here.”

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has told the Washington Post that he favors a similar approach whereby illegal immigrants “could be slowly sent back to their home countries simply through enforcement of current law.” He said the idea is “to take people who are here today and working here and replace them gradually and humanely with our own citizens as well as with legal immigrants who come in to take their place.”

Some deportations are absolutely necessary. Those illegal immigrants that come to the U.S. as terrorists, drug runners and dealers, or gang members, should be apprehended, jailed or deported. In addition, the building of a border fence, already mandated by law, would serve to keep other illegal aliens out and prevent the repeated return of those deported.

But dishonest journalists like Eugene Robinson want people to believe there are only two solutions to illegal immigration?amnesty or “round ‘em all up, kick ‘em all out” like a redneck Gestapo.

The alternative, which the media want to exclude serious debate over, is to enforce the current law by fining and penalizing businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens and take jobs away from Americans.

Talk radio needs to make this absolutely clear. Opponents of amnesty have a workable and viable solution.

Smear artists like Eugene Robinson of the Post should be roundly criticized for going over the line. His use of smear tactics suggests that he fully understands that he doesn’t have the facts or the evidence on his side.

You can tell him what you think of his despicable tactics by emailing him at eugenerobinson@washpost.com Ask Robinson to provide the facts about the chairman of the Post and the CASA of Maryland illegal alien support group. Let’s find out if he will provide an honest column that exposes the bias of his employer for his readers to see.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; censorship; fairnessdoctrine; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; noamnestyforillegals; republicrats; sellouts; talkradio; vampirebill
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To: hoagy62
If it isn’t a war, then I’m not entirely sure what it is....

It should be goodbye to our Elite Political Class!

85% of the senate and congress are socialist traitors!

Unfortunately, our el presidente is leading the pack!

Give me back my campaign contributions, Georgie!

21 posted on 06/27/2007 11:47:17 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: GFritsch

Some phrase about the tree of Liberty keeps running through my mind...


22 posted on 06/27/2007 11:48:40 AM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: GFritsch
When the famed mathematical logistician Kurt Godel was studying to become an American citizen, he confided to friends that all the ingredients for the ascension of a dictatorship exist within our current laws, but was never specific.

Perhaps we've found Godel's loophole which consists of a multi-pronged attack on the First and Second Amendments as well as flooding the nation with a hostile foreign presence. All performed through the machinery of legislation.
23 posted on 06/27/2007 11:49:59 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: goldstategop
its to the point that the politicos don't care what we think....they have decided amongst themselves that if each party works towards this bill, than no party can be the goat, except you know its always the PUbs that will take the licks.....

where to move?

24 posted on 06/27/2007 11:50:00 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Shelayne
Talk Radio Fails to Stop Amnesty Bill

should be Talk Radio Fails to Stop Its Not Amnesty Bill

25 posted on 06/27/2007 11:51:05 AM PDT by rolling_stone (same)
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To: Shelayne

This is total crap. Senators NOT LISTENING TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS is why this dog is still breathing.


26 posted on 06/27/2007 11:51:38 AM PDT by usnavycdr
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To: goldstategop

Republicans are voting for amnesty partly out of fear and partly out of a desire to compete with the Democrats in ethnic pandering.


They haven’t been labeled the Stupid Party for nothing.

The real problem I see is the 17th amendment. Representatives have to listen to their constituents if they wish to continue holding power. Senators on the other hand only need listen long enough to say the right things during election time. After the elections, they hold no allegiance to anyone but themselves. They are not bound to representing their states, nor do they really worry about the people who popularly elected them unless it’s close to their re-election.


27 posted on 06/27/2007 11:54:55 AM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: GFritsch

one chicken, two chickens, three chickens, four chickens ...


28 posted on 06/27/2007 11:55:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Brian J. Marotta, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, (1948-2007) Rest In Peace, our FRiend)
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To: cubreporter
Well, this time we put up a fight and made them work for it. The "Fairness Doctrine" should be treated with as much respect as an organization called "Rapists for Gun Control."
29 posted on 06/27/2007 11:59:28 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: SpaceBar

I believe that this time, the First Amendment will be protected by the Second Amendment. Trent Lott should be strung up by his thumbs.


30 posted on 06/27/2007 12:01:27 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (This Space Available for Rent)
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I finally found something on the internet that bring attention to the fact that after years of being “outraged” that the Republicans would consider changing a Senate rule to get an up or down vote on a Federal judge, the Democratic leadership is now completely abandoning many of the principles that make the Senate an effective institution. Not only are they going back on their word, but they are doing so without any mainstream media scrutiny at all.

Just wanted to share Dan Perrin’s comments with all of you folks from yesterday on Red Stat e, but they won’t let me post links because of my low post count. Check out erick’s blog entry from yesterday.


31 posted on 06/27/2007 12:02:00 PM PDT by King Solid
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To: goldstategop
Republicans are voting for amnesty partly out of fear and partly out of a desire to compete with the Democrats in ethnic pandering

Really? Some of them are just plain globalists and tell their constituents America can't compete in the 'global economy' of it's own making unless we merge the north American countries into one.
32 posted on 06/27/2007 12:02:27 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: GFritsch

The Senate is delusional. There are citizens who won’t give talk radio one minute of their day.

Yet these citizens are aware of this bill and what it means. All they have to do is take one look at the illegals leaving trash all over the place, pissing whereever they want to, crudely gestering to anyone they don’t like, robbing and killing our hardworking and law-abiding citizens, demanding more than anyone is entitled to, and all while first breaking the law just by crossing the borders illegally.

Most of the illegals have no intentions of assimilating. And IF this dog passes, you’ll see the illegals leave the fields so fast that the aggriculture businesses won’t have the help they thought they were going to get.


33 posted on 06/27/2007 12:05:07 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) 9/11: Many of us REFUSE to Forget!!)
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To: GFritsch

Did I take a Rip Van Winkle nap? When I went to bed, this bill was still being debated in the Senate. Did it pass overnight? Or is the headline premature?

Call. Email. Fax.

It is not over yet.


34 posted on 06/27/2007 12:06:05 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: GFritsch

There actually hasn’t been a vote on the amnesty bill yet. Guess they mean the vote on cloture.


35 posted on 06/27/2007 12:06:24 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (You can lead a liberal to talk radio, but you can't make him think.)
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To: NonValueAdded

The fury against the Senators who turned a deaf ear to their constituents will (should) be wide and thorough. I do believe that some who voted against cloture will get swept away as well. Such is the nature of flash floods. They sweep away things that just happen to be nearby.


36 posted on 06/27/2007 12:07:20 PM PDT by DustyWestTexas
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To: GFritsch
the power of conservative talk radio was no match for the White House, the Republican and Democratic Parties

Three heads, one monster.


37 posted on 06/27/2007 12:08:52 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: GFritsch
It should have read: “Talk radio was no match for BIG MONEY who lined the pockets of arrogant and corrupt senators who have not represented their constituents interests for many, many years.
38 posted on 06/27/2007 12:13:30 PM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: GFritsch

Trent Lott was wrong! Talk radio isn’t running the country.


39 posted on 06/27/2007 12:14:10 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: Sicon
There is no need to hunt them down if the present laws are enforced. Cut off all support and there only recourse will be to go home. Big fines for illegal employers, no driving license without legitimate documentation, no medical support, etc.
40 posted on 06/27/2007 12:24:39 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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