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To: JKrive
Yes, but loving your neighbor does not mean condoning their breaking of the law.

There are just and unjust laws. From a Christian perspective, we have a moral duty to allow people into this country, where they have the opportunity for a better life. If you lived in the third world and didn't have a family member in the US (which is the only reliable way into the country) you would come here illegally too. Yes, this taxes (literally!) our health care and other services. Yes, I would prefer dismantling the welfare state so we can simply provide a fair legal system and code of laws.

First of all, Christianity does not separate the two spheres. That is not the point of "render unto Ceasar." Secondly, in the context of the immigration debate, we are functioning under our capacity as people who make the laws (i.e. voters) rather than our capacity as regular citizens living under those laws.

5 posted on 06/27/2007 10:25:59 AM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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To: Jibaholic
From a Christian perspective, we have a moral duty to allow people into this country, where they have the opportunity for a better life.

If our country sinks into socialism and corruption, which it would under uncontrolled third world immigration, we will not be in a position to help poor people in third world countries. It would be worse both for them and us.

The biggest obstacle to helping these third worlders achieve better material prosperity and living standards is the socialist and corrupt government systems they live under.

Being Christian does not mean being brainless. Shackling our own society with socialism and corruption does not advance His kingdom.

11 posted on 06/27/2007 10:33:06 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Jibaholic
"From a Christian perspective, we have a moral duty to allow people into this country, where they have the opportunity for a better life."

Okay, how many a year? 500,000; 1,000,000; 5,000,000; 10,000,000; 20,000,000; 40,000,000? Give us a number and then explain why the rest of planet should not be allowed in.

Number please.

16 posted on 06/27/2007 10:40:57 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (In perpetuum sacramentum)
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To: Jibaholic
From a Christian perspective, we have a moral duty to allow people into this country ...

We allow tons of people to come to this country. All they have to do is come legally and there is no problem.

21 posted on 06/27/2007 10:44:58 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: Jibaholic

But wouldn’t dimanteling the welfare state deprive those illegals of the very thing they came here seeking. How can you be so cold.

I would just build a fence, you would let them in and then cut off the very benefits they come here seeking harming illegal and U.S. citizens alike.

The real test of your convictions would be to see just how you would react if 5 or 10 illegals showed up at your doorstep looking for a better life. I suspect that as much as you might sympathize, you would take care of your own family first.


26 posted on 06/27/2007 10:50:55 AM PDT by NavVet (O)
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To: Jibaholic
From a Christian perspective, we have a moral duty to allow people into this country, where they have the opportunity for a better life.

PURE HORSESHIT.

29 posted on 06/27/2007 10:54:27 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Jibaholic
What nonsense to say that from a Christian perspective we have a duty to allow people into this country. Most Chinese might want to come and then there will be no opportunities but instead we will be another China.

Instead, we should allow people to leave the country. And, unlike the former Soviet Union, we do.

A country that does not protect its borders and allows unlimited immigration will not survive. Nothing Christian about destroying your own country. We do not have an obligation to take in the criminals, terrorists, and surplus population from other countries and create a hell for our own people.

66 posted on 06/27/2007 6:53:54 PM PDT by Dante3
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