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To: Iwo Jima

If this were true they would stay in Mexico.

Mexico is more mexican than the US.

The truth is that Mexico is a rather bad place besieged by drug runners and corruption. This leads people to leave the nation in droves looking for better life in America.

The effort to portray all illegal immmigrants as valueless America haters is a caricature. It makes the emotions feel good and increases ratings for Lou Dobbs but is largely irrational.


308 posted on 06/27/2007 11:43:43 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: lonestar67
The effort to portray all illegal immmigrants as valueless America haters is a caricature. It makes the emotions feel good and increases ratings for Lou Dobbs but is largely irrational.

You don't get out much, do you.

324 posted on 06/27/2007 11:49:55 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: lonestar67
Living in America isn’t a divine right conferred on the rest of the world.

I submit that if the situation were as bad as you say, the “American” thing to do would be to fight to make the situation there better. America is as much a set of values as it is a physical place...

No, they are coming for the benefits and not much more.

Query. Have you ever seen a USA/Mexico soccer game played in the US? We’re the “road” team even if the game is in Chicago or Columbus. Illegals have little respect for America other than what it will do for them. Hmmmm, a Kennedy said something about that once...

325 posted on 06/27/2007 11:50:03 AM PDT by Loyolas Mattman
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To: lonestar67
If this were true they would stay in Mexico.

This statement shows just how profoundly ignorant you are of the situation. By and large (there are exceptions to every generality), they come to this country for one thing only -- money. The money that they earn and the free government benefits that they get. Health care, education, you name it.

Still generalizing, they believe that the only thing that makes America better than Mexico is that we have more money, and that we got that money by stealing it from Mexico, that Mexico is poor because America stole their lands and their wealth. In fact, when they come to Texas or other parts of the southwest, they don't even think that they have come to America. They think that they are truly still in Mexico because we stole this land from them (Aztlan) and that they are just taking it back back by moving in (Reconquista).

They think that Mexico, its culture and values, are superior in almost every respect and cling to that culture and values, and reject American culture and values. Generally speaking, of course.
348 posted on 06/27/2007 12:02:20 PM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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