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To: DevSix
"Huge smell of BS here"

Even if this is BS, there has been lots of evidence of Iranian involvement against us in Iraq, and we have done nothing to directly hit back(correct me if I'm wrong). Right now it seems that we are just playing referee in an ethnic conflict that is being escalated by Iran and Syria, while trying to finish a nation building project. We are hoping, and doing what we can to make them stay quiet long enough so we can declare victory and get the hell out of there. Unfortunately, our enemies in Iran and Syria aren't playing along, and we seem to be in some sort of denial about it all. The time has long passed for us to hit them back, and to hit hard. We should either play to win, or bring our guys home right now. I think the best solution would be to drop the pathetic rules of engagement, identify our enemies, and kill as many of them as we can.

It seems the "Bush Doctrine" was nothing more than a bunch of talk. Increasingly, the nations that support and harbor terrorists are finding this out.

122 posted on 06/25/2007 8:42:01 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: KoRn

Ahh.. the Iranians are good folks. President Tom is a nice man. I know a guy who went fishing with him. He wouldnt do this. It is Americans fault !

“GULF OF TONKIN, GOOGLE IT !”

lol. haha *SARCASM*


125 posted on 06/25/2007 8:46:33 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (I just became engaged...6/16/07..)
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To: KoRn
It seems the "Bush Doctrine" was nothing more than a bunch of talk. Increasingly, the nations that support and harbor terrorists are finding this out.

No - The reality is we will fight differing enemies at the times and places of our choosing....not theirs...

Even if this is BS, there has been lots of evidence of Iranian involvement against us in Iraq, and we have done nothing to directly hit back(correct me if I'm wrong). Right now it seems that we are just playing referee in an ethnic conflict that is being escalated by Iran and Syria, while trying to finish a nation building project. We are hoping, and doing what we can to make them stay quiet long enough so we can declare victory and get the hell out of there. Unfortunately, our enemies in Iran and Syria aren't playing along

Iran has provided weapons to our enemies (but so has the Russian, Chinese, French, to only name a few)...we can't simply go to war with everyone....

Preparing to hit back is a crucial phase....it does not happen in the open and great risks are taken. That the public isn't hearing about such Ops....doesn't mean they aren't happening..

We are not playing referee in an ethnic conflict. We are at war with an AQ element (and mimics) whom are doing all they can to cause chaos and a quasi civil war if possible. They have not achieved the latter....in fact more Sunni and Shia are on our side today then anytime in the past 3 years...

We are not going to "get the hell out of there". We will be there for a decade or more (just like Europe, Japan, SK) Iraq is the heart of the ME. It is essential to dragging the entire ME out of the dark ages. Doing such is an extremely difficult process but after 9-11 there was no other option. The ME must come out of the dark ages...the process for such had to begin. The world is simply too small and easily too dangerous to allow otherwise.

This process will be two steps forward, one step backward.

We are winning. There is no "playing" here. Reality is since Sept 11th, 2001 our enemies have suffered one strategic defeat after another....we have not suffered one. Hell, you would be hard pressed to find even a handful of tactical engagement our enemies could claim as successful.

The one aspect of this WOT we are losing...is the information battle. The PR side. Without question. Our MSM clearly has an agenda (along with our enemies) and the WH/RNC have not come up with a counter to such....(A WOT supporting 527 would be a great start...fully resourced)

194 posted on 06/26/2007 7:13:57 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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