So you’re saying they have to be baptized before God will let them enter Heaven? Then, what you’re saying is that God is a liar (forgive me Lord, but I have to make this point). But God isn’t a liar. Jesus dying on the Cross and raising from the dead was for what? Nothing? Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one comes to the Father but by Me”. Christ told the thief on the cross next to Him that “today you will be with Me in Paradise”. I don’t think the thief was baptized, was Jesus lying to him? I don’t think so.
I have a close friend who’s daughter is married to a Mormon. He has three children from a previous marriage who attended the Mormon Church. They came home one Sunday all upset because they were told that their dad and new wife were going to hell because they weren’t married in the Mormon church. They’ve also been baptized for the dead and the oldest one now is only 13. This religion puts up a facade of being christian but they don’t have a clue about it. Yes, most of them are moral people, but you’re missing the True Message of Christ.
How it sticks in my craw that J. Smith has elevated himself above Christ. Lucifer tried to do that with God and look at what happened to him. This world has false prophets a plenty. You can all have organized religion, I don’t need it. Trying to live a christian life is enough for me. Doctrines get in the way of what Christ was trying to teach us. Putting God first before man is what I strive for.
If you want to try and convince people you have a valid religion, you should back it up with Scripture, and not J. Smith’s version of it either. I’ve read some of the Book of Mormon, and all I can say is I will pray that God takes the blinders off your eyes. How easily some are deceived.
~”So you’re saying they have to be baptized before God will let them enter Heaven?”~
We believe that baptism is a necessary ordinance that must be completed for an individual to return to God. This is different than Paradise. If you’d like, we can get into this discussion.
~”They came home one Sunday all upset because they were told that their dad and new wife were going to hell because they weren’t married in the Mormon church.”~
Then they had an unfortunate experience. What can I say? Kids say mean things sometimes. That doesn’t make it true.
~”They’ve also been baptized for the dead and the oldest one now is only 13.”~
Nobody under the age of 12 participates. It’s a hard and fast rule. I’d recheck.
~”This religion puts up a facade of being christian but they don’t have a clue about it.”~
This has been, until now, a rather pleasant conversation. I suggest we keep it that way.
I am a Mormon. I am a Christian. Period. You are not qualified to judge differently - only One is. The fact that we disagree on the interpretations of some scriptures hardly gives you that qualification.
~”Yes, most of them are moral people, but you’re missing the True Message of Christ.”~
Please, what is the True Message of Christ that I’m missing? I’ll bet we have much more in common in this area than you suspect.
~”How it sticks in my craw that J. Smith has elevated himself above Christ.”~
He did not. There is a quote, often taken out of context, that our detractors try to use to claim this; but the charge is untrue.
~”This world has false prophets a plenty.”~
Indeed. “You shall know them by their fruits.” I’d say that a religious system where it can be said of its members that “most of them are moral people” is a pretty good fruit, for example.
~”You can all have organized religion, I don’t need it. Trying to live a christian life is enough for me.”~
OK, God bless you.
~”I’ve read some of the Book of Mormon, and all I can say is I will pray that God takes the blinders off your eyes.”~
I appreciate your concern. I do wish there were, however, some way that I could explain exactly what the Book of Mormon has given to me. The words fail me miserably.
~”How easily some are deceived.”~
That’s true; that’s why I asked the Lord if it was the truth. The answer is why I stay.