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Pro-Darwin Biology Professor...Supports Teaching Intelligent Design
Discovery Institute ^ | June 22, 2007

Posted on 06/23/2007 12:21:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: GodGunsGuts
The Church of Darwin also offers the faithful numerous carrots

Honorary Doctorates? Bah! Halfway measures. Again nothing like the old days. A generation ago, even less, a Judge Jones would have had a Galapagos Mansions staffed with 5,000 slaves (not including the Harem).

If we're down to counting on denying tenure and issuing honorary doctorates then this conspiracy is doomed to imminent dissolution. In but a few years the truth about the Hollow Ear... er, I mean Creation, yeah, Creation, will be revealed.

21 posted on 06/23/2007 2:10:04 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Stultis

==Why have EVILutionists allowed these dissenters to live?

You are right. If we use history as our guide, in all countries where EVILutionists do manage to completely take over...reeducattion camps, gulags and mass murder do indeed follow.


22 posted on 06/23/2007 2:10:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Stultis
==this conspiracy is doomed to imminent dissolution.

I couldn’t agree more. It’s quite inevitable.

23 posted on 06/23/2007 2:12:44 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Youngblood

==So what? What has the bible got to do with science?

If we are IN FACT created beings, then the Bible could very well have a lot to say about the scientific study of origins.


24 posted on 06/23/2007 2:15:07 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
in all countries where EVILutionists do manage to completely take over...reeducattion camps, gulags and mass murder do indeed follow

You don't even begin to grasp the depth and extent of the EVILution Conspiracy (until it went soft anyway). If you know about it, it wasn't us! Granted that some of our most bitter enemies, like Stalin, copied some of our methods, in far more crude and less subtle fashion of course, but we defeated him in the end.

See, you didn't even know the Cold War was fought over EVILution, did you? Even if you did, you would have had the sides backward. Granted the Soviet Lysenkoists that Stalin championed hadn't stumbled onto the real refutation of Darwinism, but again that's just my point. In the old days the EVILution Conspiracy went after any threat, and shook the foundations of global civilization to do so. Today this conspiracy is a pathetic shadow of its former self.

25 posted on 06/23/2007 2:21:26 PM PDT by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
If we are IN FACT created beings, then the Bible could very well have a lot to say about the scientific study of origins.

People used to assume it said everything there was to say about origins. Science has discredited those interpretations and shown much of the early part of it was borrowed and shaped from other cultural myths in the region. What else could be in there in terms of scientific knowledge, apart from trying to match certain biblical stories to historical events e.g. the flight from Egypt and the explosion of Santorini?

26 posted on 06/23/2007 2:27:58 PM PDT by Youngblood
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To: Stultis
==Granted that some of our most bitter enemies, like Stalin

Stalin is EVILution’s bitter enemy because he deviated from Marx and Lenin.

==Granted the Soviet Lysenkoists that Stalin championed hadn’t stumbled onto the real refutation of Darwinism

Again, the Lysenkoists are hated because they deviated from the arch-Darwinist founders of modern Communusm, ie Marx and Lenin. Once the Cult of Stalin was put to rest, the Communists REINSTATED Darwin to his rightful place. Had Stalin been predisposed to elevate Darwin, he would have killed off the Lysenkoists. Indeed, this is so elementary even low-level Darwinists such as yourself should be able to understand it.

27 posted on 06/23/2007 2:32:50 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Youngblood
As a primer, I suggest you consult www.detectingdesign.com

When you have mastered the basics, drop me a line.

28 posted on 06/23/2007 2:34:54 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: AnalogReigns

Ex nihilo creation does not appear unambiguously in Gen. That is usually not argued.


29 posted on 06/23/2007 2:36:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: GodGunsGuts

“”Unlike most of my colleagues, however, I don’t see ID as a threat to biology, public education or the ideals of the republic.”

Teaching ID as science requires one to completely separate oneself from the basic priciples of scientific research and methodology.


30 posted on 06/23/2007 2:40:14 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
==Teaching ID as science requires one to completely separate oneself from the basic priciples of scientific research and methodology.

Not at all. Even high priests from the Church of Darwin, such as Richard Dawkins, admit that IDers are asking eminently scientific questions...he just happens to side with the Church of Darwin.

31 posted on 06/23/2007 2:43:57 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
As a primer, I suggest you consult www.detectingdesign.com When you have mastered the basics, drop me a line.

From the intro to your link.

This website is a rough draft collection of my own notes and thoughts as well as the thoughts of many others

Ha Ha Ha!

32 posted on 06/23/2007 2:44:14 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

Like I said, it’s a primer. I wanted to get you used to the shallow water before introducing concepts that might be out of your depth.


33 posted on 06/23/2007 2:47:47 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think that cloud I see out my window was intelligently designed. I mean, how can that moisture segregate itself with defined edges of such beauty unless it was designed? How could a cloud form “by accident”?


34 posted on 06/23/2007 2:58:17 PM PDT by narby
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To: GodGunsGuts

Spare me the condescension. Pitman doesn’t have anything new to say there anyway. We’ve been hearing for decades about the conspiracy of silence, intimidation and suppression of doubt about evolution in the scientific field. 911 conspiracists and holocaust deniers/skeptics make the same kind of claims all the time. And what has all of that got to do with the bible? Lets assume for a moment that someone like Behe was correct, and it could be proved that the prokaryotic or even eukaryotic cell were actually designed and created somewhere along the line - that doesn’t prove anything whatsoever in relation to the christian god or the bible or any other religious claim.


35 posted on 06/23/2007 3:02:21 PM PDT by Youngblood
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To: narby

==I think that cloud I see out my window was intelligently designed. I mean, how can that moisture segregate itself with defined edges of such beauty unless it was designed? How could a cloud form “by accident”?

I suggest you brush up on ID before making reading “design” into cloud patterns. You might want to start with Dembski’s Explanatory Filter.

http://www.arn.org/docs/dembski/wd_explfilter.htm


36 posted on 06/23/2007 3:05:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Don’t forget about human-caused Global Warming!

Don't worry, that's being taken care up by scientists like this.

It's too bad there are no scientists who have been able to generate positive evidence for God in subjects such as ID and the eternal struggle against evolution.

37 posted on 06/23/2007 3:06:30 PM PDT by narby
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He says that the mere suggestion that ID could be taught brings out "all manner of evasions and prevarications that are quite out of character for otherwise balanced, intelligent and reasonable people."

How about the fact that there's no scientific evidence in favor of ID, and the subject being taught is science? If there were such evidence, then that would translate into positive scientific evidence for the existence of God, and that doesn't exist. Just like there's no scientific evidence of the existence of Allah, or Zeus, or Thor, or ghosts. Sure, Jesus existed, but so did Mohamed. That a person existed doesn't validate all the stories told about them. There are lots of whoppers told about people who existed in History.

38 posted on 06/23/2007 3:12:46 PM PDT by narby
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To: Youngblood
Yah right. And a fossil record filled with gradual intergradations of life forms wouldn’t prove anything whatsoever about Darwinian evolution. PLEASE!

PS When you say that “Pitman doesn’t have anything new to say there anyway,” should I take that to mean you have read the entire contents of his website?

39 posted on 06/23/2007 3:14:56 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
The Church of Darwin ....

How does labeling evolution a faith make ID true? Assuming that evolution is a faith, that's one faith against another, how would that fact help your case?

40 posted on 06/23/2007 3:15:28 PM PDT by narby
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