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To: CAluvdubya

Unsurprisingly, I find your posts “insulting” and “silly” . . . FYI: I don’t “tear down Reagan” (that would be what you do with Bush); instead, I post historically accurate information in an effort to inject PERSPECTIVE into discussions that are more often than not characterized by irrational name-calling and vitriol . . . oops, there I go being “silly” again.

[BTW: I like the photo on your homepage!]


170 posted on 06/21/2007 10:19:01 PM PDT by DrDeb (IF STANDING FOR LIBERTY IN THE WORLD MAKES ME A DISSIDENT, I WEAR THAT TITLE WITH PRIDE. GWB -07)
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To: DrDeb
I didn't think you'd answer my post, so I'll add something from The Corner for the Bush Rah-Rah Fan Club:

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More Strange Silence   [Michael Ledeen]

General Petraeus gave an interview to the London Times in which he said

The Iranian involvement here we have found to be much, much more significant than we thought before. They have since about the summer of 2004 played a very, very important role in training in Iran, funding, arming.

I think this is now on the verge of becoming the conventional wisdom, after years of denial from top Bush-administration officials, including, sad to say, Petraeus's predecessors. There has long been a desperate attempt to deny Iran's role in Iraq (and Afghanistan, for that matter), primarily because it was clear to the military that the policy makers back home didn't want to take the decisive action that the information so clearly demanded. And demands.

Secretary of State Rice seems to have been extremely tenacious in insisting that we must stick to a diplomatic track with the mullahs, even going so far as to recommend the release of the "Irbil 5," the Revolutionary Guards officers captured in Irbil. I suspect—no inside information mind you—that at least some of what Petraeus has learned came from those Iranian killers, and he has bluntly said that he intends to keep them as long as they can talk, as long as we have food for them.

It's quite amazing how the desire NOT to know trumps intelligence every time. Can't let the facts get in the way of good policy, right? The desire NOT to know about Iran is not at all unique to this administration or to this secretary of state. Indeed, it is the basic theme of American policy ever since the 1979 Revolution that brought the Ayatollah Khomeini to power in Tehran.

Add this, Bush not pressing the Iranians on their aiding and abetting the killing of American soldiers, to the "Either you're with us" list I posted above. -----------------------------------------------

So, Bush supports the Fatah terrorists, is considering engaging in talks with the Muslim Brotherhood, and refuses to admit the degree to which the mad mullahs are behind the Iraqi insurgency....and people want to say that he's good on the WoT. Laughable, I say.

Before you put your heads on the pillow, think about what 15,000 people looks like -- about the size of a basketball crowd -- and imagine all those Saudi students your fearless leader has let in our damn country.

I'm outta here. Sleep well, Bush-fans.

15,000

171 posted on 06/21/2007 10:44:33 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: DrDeb
Unsurprisingly, I find your posts “insulting” and “silly” . . . FYI: I don’t “tear down Reagan” (that would be what you do with Bush); instead, I post historically accurate information in an effort to inject PERSPECTIVE into discussions that are more often than not characterized by irrational name-calling and vitriol . . . oops, there I go being “silly” again.

Hmmmm, looks like you're into name calling, eh?

Perspective? Is that what all that is? Just come and visit me and I'll show you perspective. We can visit the border (where there is no fence) and the camps in the canyon behind my house (although it's really not safe after dark).

It is indeed silly to blindly follow someone whose actions are bad for this country. Funny, I'm not in the minority on this issue!

175 posted on 06/21/2007 11:21:59 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (DUNCAN HUNTER '08 (I'll add Thompson if he ever decides to enter the race))
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