[mngran]

...its kind of like a serial killer wanting to write a book and keep all the profits from his crimes using the arguement that his killings happened along time ago, while the families of his victims are still alive.

Grandchildren of Archduke Ferdinand still living:

-HSH Prince Franz Ferdinand Karl Georg Ernst von Hohenberg
-HSH Prince Ernst Georg Elemer Albert Josef Antonius Peregrinus Rupertus Maria von Hohenberg
- HSH Princess Eva Anne Maria von Hohenburg
- HSH Georg, Duke of Hohenberg
- HSH Prince Albrecht von Hohenberg
- HSH Prince Peter von Hohenberg
- HSH Prince Gerhard von Hohenberg
- Countess Sophie Amalia Theresia Quirinia Henriette Lucretia Magdalena Maria Ignatia von Nostitz-Rieneck
- And numerous great grandchildren, etc.

So, I still say two more votes for Austria if we're giving the Poles exrtra points. And whom do you think populates Germany and France? Survivors of Roman invasions. Into the minus column, Italy!

Where do you propose to draw the line. Only atrocities from 60 years ago? 100 years? 5? 1000? I vote for zero.

[Sonny M]

Where do you propose to draw the line. Only atrocities from 60 years ago? 100 years? 5? 1000? I vote for zero.

So if someone murders someones family, they get to write a book and keep all the profits?

The son of sam could be a millionaire under this type of scenario, as could most serial killers who can put a pen (or marker) to paper.

One should not benefit from crimes one committed, or even worse, use the fruits of that crime to benefit immediatly over those very victims.

Also, you mentioned Austria, couldn't an arguement be made to take away votes?