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To: js1138; metmom

For goodness sake. Let it go. I have no former screen name, and how I posted without pinging anyone really isn’t that great mystery. Nor is it really that big of an issue.

Metmom: Thanks for your comment on my post regarding science. The point that I was trying to make is that people often set up an offense/defense against God by pointing to science.

People say things like: “Science is a great unifier...science is a revealer of truth...science requires humility and discipline... and so on.” If you read carefully the language that they use in describing the ability of science to reveal truth, it becomes clear that they are really rejecting God by setting up science itself as a sort of...god.

Sometimes people do this knowingly...but more often, people do this without realizing it. Even Christians — and for Christians, that’s a real snake in the grass.

I was merely cautioning people — from the perspective of one who has several years of experience inside of academia, and in particular the fields of biogeography, ecology, and geography — that the real practice of science in the United States and indeed around the world is far more pedestrian and that it really ought not be placed up on a pedestal — and evolution, in particular, doesn’t belong up there either.

God is truly great, you know...He is capable of accounting for every one of the questions “science” (and, let’s be careful about personifying it this way shall we?) might raise. God doesn’t need our help in explaining the creation account through evolution - He exists outside of time, His ways are not our ways, and He is big enough and great enough and complex enough to certainly have created the world and all the amazing diversity of life on it without such a pedestrian explanation as evolution. He doesn’t need our help, but he does need our faith and our trust and our constancy in remembering who He is and what He is capable of.


305 posted on 06/25/2007 11:38:32 AM PDT by lifebygrace
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To: lifebygrace
People say things like: “Science is a great unifier...science is a revealer of truth...science requires humility and discipline... and so on.” If you read carefully the language that they use in describing the ability of science to reveal truth, it becomes clear that they are really rejecting God by setting up science itself as a sort of...god.

Since you took care not to post to me, you are obviously not including me or what I said in your argument.

But it is true that the methods of religion are not reliable in obtaining factual knowledge about the material world. Else juries would not need to be presented with forensic evidence, and they would be instructed to determine guilt or innocence through prayer.

307 posted on 06/25/2007 11:43:45 AM PDT by js1138
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To: lifebygrace

Can we inquire as to what capacity your several years in acamemia was spent?


308 posted on 06/25/2007 12:02:13 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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