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A three-pronged plan to bring America down (Bush's Amnesty advances North American Union)
RenewAmerica.us ^ | June 17, 2007 | Joshua Herring

Posted on 06/17/2007 8:53:07 AM PDT by cpforlife.org



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A three-pronged plan to bring America down

June 17, 2007
Joshua Herring
RenewAmerica analyst

In an article that I read recently, there was a tragic story. It filled my heart with sorrow to think of Americans devastated in the workplace by policies that exhibit an inexcusable lack of sensitivity and civic responsibility. This is the story of which I speak:

    Fox News reported on a particularly tragic example of job displacement that took place in 2003: "Kevin Flanagan, a computer programmer with Bank of America, was fired from his job after being forced to train his replacement, an Indian worker who was taking over Flanagan's job as part of Bank of America's effort to replace its American workforce with foreign labor. Flanagan walked outside into his office parking lot and shot himself to death." (emphasis added) [1]

How sad and how utterly abhorrent this is. Given current trends, I wonder how many more tragic stories resulting from this kind of cruel injustice there will be in days to come. How many stories of American children growing up in abject poverty, deprived of even their most basic needs; stories of families being driven from their homes with no place to go; and stories of marriages that fell apart due to intense financial pressure. I also wonder how many stories there will be about the devastating impact those divorces had on the lives of children in America. The reason I wonder is because this kind of job displacement is going to increase in days to come, unless something dramatic takes place to prevent it

The 110th Congress has been wrestling with an immigration reform bill. Those supporting the bill say it would provide "cheap labor" as if that would unquestionably be a good thing. There is more involved with what I intend to touch on here, and the ramifications of those things are many, but due to space constraints I can only deal with some economic aspects of the problem.

Where are men like James Madison when we need them today?

The most basic and essential duties of the United States Congress are to guard against things that undermine the Constitution, chip away at national sovereignty, or threaten national stability and security. Nevertheless, at this point, we are facing a clear and present danger resulting from dereliction of duty on the part of our leaders.

As much as I would like to place all the blame on liberals in the Democratic Party, the truth is that part of the blame rests upon people in the Republicans party. I'm speaking of people, many of whom still have the nerve to call themselves conservatives when even the term RINO will no longer suffice in describing them. They are well on their way to becoming full-fledged liberals, and President Bush has been leading the charge.

The three-pronged plan of attack

This essay is about a three-pronged plan of attack designed to diminish American sovereignty, strength, security, and stability. Regardless of how anyone voted, and as important as that information is, the problem goes much deeper than that. I am firmly persuaded that the amnesty bill is only one part of a plan to bring this nation down. What do I mean when I speak of a "three pronged" plan of attack?

1 — There is the latest immigration bill slated to return to the Senate floor for debate. Despite all the rhetorical subterfuge and denials, it is true that passage of the immigration reform Congress is wrestling with would, de facto, grant amnesty to anywhere from 12–20 million illegal immigrants.

2 — Then there is NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement. This agreement has already contributed to economic problems that will have long-term negative impact on our nation. Don't be fooled by the fact that most of these negative effects have yet to materialize, because they are coming and I intend to show you why.

3 — In addition to NAFTA, now there is CAFTA, the Central American Free Trade Agreement. I believe CAFTA is the more dangerous of the two.

The consequences of these three things will virtually transform America — but not for the better. In facilitation of the trade agreements, a superhighway is to be built. The width of the highway is to be four hundred yards and it is known as "North America's SuperCorridor." It will run through several Mexican states and through Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Nebraska, Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota, and the Canadian provinces of Manitoba and Ontario. Close your eyes for a moment and picture a highway as wide as the length of four football fields. Can you imagine that? Can you also imagine the mass displacement of people who will be driven from their homes to clear the way for this highway?!

When I consider the most recent Supreme Court decision pertaining to eminent domain, I think, "How utterly convenient that is, and what a coincidence." This ruling permits local governments to seize homes and businesses for private projects that "promote economic development." This was a highly irregular decision by the Court, to say the very least, and it was certainly well-timed to facilitate the needs of those planning the "SuperCorridor." This highway is to provide not only truck routes entering the United States from Mexico; it will include both passenger and freight railroad lines that run alongside of oil and natural gas pipelines.

A few pertinent details

Let's take a quick look at a few aspects of the two free trade agreements before going any further. First of all, let's consider the words of current Republican presidential candidate Congressman Tom Tancredo, regarding CAFTA and some of its provisions.

    CAFTA would do more than just phase out tariffs and open new markets — a lot more. For example, buried among its nearly 1,000 pages, the agreement contains an expansive definition of "cross-border trade in services." This definition would give people in Central American nations a de facto right to work in the United States. CAFTA is more than a trade agreement about sugar and bananas. It is a thinly disguised immigration accord.

    What those provisions mean is that a foreign company would be empowered under CAFTA to challenge the validity of our immigration laws. If an international tribunal rules against us, Congress would then be forced to change our immigration laws or face international trade sanctions. These tribunals have the authority to rule that U.S. immigration limits, visa requirements, or even licensing requirements and zoning rules are "unnecessary burdens to trade" that act as "restrictions on the supply of a service."

    If CAFTA were really just about trade, the agreement would be little more than a few pages long, declaring that tariff treatment for U.S. and Central American goods will be on a reciprocal basis. But it isn't. In reality, CAFTA is about expanding a growing body of international law that supersedes our own. If CAFTA is approved, Congress' "exclusive" authority to regulate immigration policy will be subjugated to the whim of international tribunals and trade panels — in much the same way that Congress' once supreme constitutional authority to "regulate commerce with foreign nations," has already been largely ceded to the WTO [World Trade Organization]. [2]

Now let's take a quick look at NAFTA before we move on. NAFTA has been in effect since 1994.

    NAFTA, by permitting heavily-subsidized U.S. corn and other agri-business products to compete with small Mexican farmers, has driven the Mexican farmer off the land due to low-priced imports of U.S. corn and other agricultural products. Some 2 million Mexicans have been forced out of agriculture, and many of those that remain are living in desperate poverty. These people are among those that cross the border to feed their families. (Meanwhile, corn-based tortilla prices climbed by 50%. No wonder so many Mexican peasants have called NAFTA their 'death warrant.')

    NAFTA's service-sector rules allowed big firms like Wal-Mart to enter the Mexican market and, selling low-priced goods made by ultra-cheap labor in China, to displace locally-based shoe, toy, and candy firms. An estimated 28,000 small and medium-sized Mexican businesses have been eliminated. Wages along the Mexican border have actually been driven down by about 25% since NAFTA, reported a Carnegie Endowment study. An over-supply of workers, combined with the crushing of union organizing drives as government policy, has resulted in sweatshop pay running sweatshops along the border where wages typically run 60 cents to $1 an hour. [3]

And this is, as they say in movie advertisements, "Coming soon to a theater near you!" What has been taking place in Mexico will work its way around to the U.S., and it will have a similar impact on the owners of small to medium-sized businesses. Please note that in what you just read — as wages went down, the price of at least some Mexican food staples rose dramatically. In addition to this, NAFTA has, by virtue of damage done to Mexican farmers and other business owners, driven hordes of illegal immigrants into America who will work for less money than American's do even after naturalization.

Meanwhile, authority contained in CAFTA will be transferred to various supranational and UN entities such as the Codex Alimentarius, the World Trade Organization, and the International Labour Organization. An international trade panel will have authority to override U.S. immigration laws and other laws that get in the way. The panel will be made up of one American and two Central Americans. This unequal balance of power will leave the U.S. at a disadvantage, as decisions are made that strip away our national sovereignty. And CAFTA will lead to the immigration of people from Central America with government sanction that will be sent specifically for the purpose working here. This will cause progressive displacement of American workers to facilitate the agendas of Central Americans.

As we go forward from here, there are a couple of things I would like you to keep in mind. First, while the immigration reform bill has yet to be passed, the same cannot be said of NAFTA and CAFTA. Therefore, even if fewer immigrants are naturalized than the 12–20 million covered by the pending legislation, that fact will not prevent the things I'm talking about from coming about. The other thing to bear in mind is the fact that economically speaking, the term "shortage" doesn't mean "scarcity." It simply means there isn't enough of something to satisfy everyone. This having been said, now I will touch on some things that are being ignored because they would otherwise interfere with the plans of globalists.

Cause and effect realities that cannot be ignored

Proponents of the current immigration package say the bill will provide the American workforce with cheap labor. Many Americans think this will lead to lower prices and wonder what could possibly be wrong with that. However, application of a few basic economic principles begins to remove the gossamer covering of some of the hidden dangers of CAFTA and NAFTA. Regardless of how it all plays out, prices will go down temporarily at some point, as more immigrants come to America and imports come from other countries that will be too cheap for American companies to compete. This will take place for reasons I will get into shortly.

Economic principles and the laws of nature

Economics principles are like the laws of nature: there is no way to ignore them and get away with it. In his book, Basic Economics, Thomas Sowell speaks of rent control shortly after WW II having kept the cost of housing artificially low for an extended period of time. As a result, many young adults of college age who were still living with their parents could afford to rent an apartment. At the same time, people who were affluent rented a second and sometimes even a third house or apartment.

In addition to this, couples without children were renting three and four bedroom units simply because they could afford to. All this produced a serious housing shortage, despite the fact that there were basically no more people in need of housing, and no less housing to go around than before. An economic principle came into play that is consistently true: lowering prices leads to market shortages.

Given the level of immigration, both legal and illegal, brought about through amnesty and by virtue of CAFTA and NAFTA — combined with the cheaper imports I just spoke of — all this will eventually have an impact on the American marketplace that will be dramatic. Although much of it will not show immediately, the impact will indeed be negative, due in part to an unproductive economic cycle being set into motion. First, lower prices will lead to altered spending patterns that cause market shortages and significantly diminish what is available to the poor. If a shortage isn't severe enough to lead to black market activity, it can still lead to discriminatory behind-the-counter activities that will diminish the supply leftover for the average consumer.

The impact all this will have on American business owners and the workplace

Lower prices will also make it more difficult for those who produce some things to stay in business. If businesses cannot use cheap labor for some reason, they will not be able to price things competitively and still cover their costs. Therefore, many who aren't forced out of business will make changes and target a different market, catering only to those who are more affluent. At the same time, major increases in cheap labor and the cheaper imports will eventually cause prices that were originally lowered to rise. This is something else that will come about due to market shortages, as they create a greater demand than supply can keep up with.

As all this is taking place, increasing numbers of Americans will lose their jobs, as they are displaced by foreign labor. Eventually, even businessmen who don't want to hire foreign workers will be forced to make the transition to avoid insolvency. The cost of doing business in the U.S. can only be brought so low, and there are only so many ways to do so. Eventually, the only way to compete with cheaper imports will be for Americans to drop standards pertaining to everything from wages, to quality control, to employee benefits, etc. Yet, even after all that has been done, it still won't be enough to make up the needed difference.

Health, safety, and environmental regulations enforced by OSHA, the EPA, and other government agencies are already making things very difficult. This has forced many small business owners out of business who cannot — to give just one example — afford all the waste treatment required to operate since regulations have been tightened. They would face stiff fines for ignoring some of those regulations, and imprisonment for other violations. Because of CAFTA and NAFTA, in the future the same regulations will gradually make it difficult for all but the largest businesses and corporations affected by such regulations to survive amidst competition with imports from other nations.

Many of those nations don't have such rigid regulations and safety standards, and because of CAFTA and NAFTA, they will no longer have to deal with import tariffs on things sent to America. In the final analysis, as time passes the number of American companies outsourcing jobs, the number of companies that have gone under, and the number of American workers displaced by immigrants will drive the unemployment rate in America right through the roof.

The short term result of all this will be that people who are less than affluent will have to tighten their belts, and determine their needs and preferences more carefully. They will have to do without some things to avoid losing other things increasingly considered to be "luxuries," but which people simply aren't willing to do without. The long-term result will be something that has already happened in some European nations. All this will accelerate the rate at which America is moving toward becoming a society made up of only two classes — the very rich and the very poor.

The political ramifications involved

Nevertheless, poor people will invariably continue to vote for liberals, thinking they will fare better with them in office — when in fact, virtually everyone does better, poor people included, with politicians in office who are better stewards of government money than liberals tend to be. There is also another political factor that will eventually come into play, and the very thought of this breaks my heart.

In a society in which the middle class is being eliminated, eventually proletariats will outnumber the wealthy by a wide margin. The American system of choosing leaders by voting will give the poor an increasing advantage at the polls. However, the rich will never surrender their power and privilege in this nation. Therefore, in the long run, our government will have to be gradually transformed into something more resembling an oligarchy than the republic it once was. It might even undergo such massive change that for all practical intents and purposes, the U.S. Constitution will become obsolete.

More causes of a major transformation

We live in a society that is supposed to operate on the basis of the "free enterprise system" — that is, a system in which businesses operate competitively without government interference that goes beyond regulation to protect the public interest and keep the economy stable. As I've already mentioned, the key factors in such a system are supply and demand.

Reliance on supply and demand is the only trustworthy means of determining how resources can be used most efficiently, and the only means of seeing to it that prices create a stable market. By contrast, subsidization by the government of large corporations has the effect of seeing to it that in the long run, prices will not cover the cost of production for at least some businesses. When this fact is ignored, smaller business owners end up taking the hit first.

Unfortunately, full implementation of NAFTA and CAFTA will cause the severity of the problems created by government subsidization to increase exponentially. Gradually, even some of the larger businesses will find it difficult to survive as a result. Those businesses must cover production costs with prices determined by market conditions or they will possibly lose everything. There is no government cushion provided to cover them for problems created by abnormal fluctuations in the marketplace as there is with corporations subsidized by the government.

Subsidization of large corporations interferes with the principle of incremental change that takes place when business is done normally, as gradual adjustments and substitutions are made due to changes in supply and demand. This is one of the things that lead to the development of abnormal market fluctuations and imbalances in supply and demand. But in every case, a day comes when something must begin to compensate for this. As much as politicians try and ignore these realities, there is no getting around them.

The impact of all this on the government as a whole

The problems created by this kind of activity don't show up right away, and politicians use that to their advantage. They create policies and programs like the current immigration reform bill, for example, and convince the public they have done something good when they are actually just catering to big business interests. Every time they do this, the real problems don't become evident for a while — and often by the time they finally come to light, the situation is at or near crisis level. The Savings and Loan crisis of the eighties was an example of this. The cost of the crisis is estimated to have been around $150 billion. About $125 billion of it was directly subsidized by the U.S. government. This contributed to large budget deficits in the early 1990s.

Things like this create unnecessary needs that could have been avoided — needs that some politicians believe call for socialistic programs as a solution. However, for a variety of reasons, socialistic policies — while leading to everyone's needs being met in theory — have the opposite effect in practice. One of the reasons is that people who don't have to work for what they get are less responsible about consumption.

Therefore, supplies and/or services become inadequate to meet people's needs, while at the same time the cost of doing business tends to skyrocket. This is because any time the government begins to pick up the tab for something — like healthcare, for instance — politicians and bureaucrats write rules and provisions into the system that aren't cost-effective.

Let me give you one quick example of what I'm talking about. In facilities that care for the elderly and take patients in for rehabilitation, the maximum amount private insurance companies will pay runs from $250 to $350 per day. The people in charge of admissions in those facilities work hard to see that beds are filled with Medicare patients, because the federal government will pay in excess of $700 per day. The price of everything from supplies, to treatments, to therapy increases when the federal government is footing the bill.

This is something that holds true with any industry involved. No one really cares about what the government pays. Therefore the government's cost of doing business rises steadily. Here again, the costs created by such practices must be made up somewhere. In the long run, it simply ends up being taken out of the pockets of hard working citizens. This is true regardless of whether it takes place in a free enterprise system or a command economy.

Politicians are always trying to find a way to deal with societal problems and needs without facing realities that to them are inconvenient. Most of the problems aren't nearly as difficult to solve as they make it seem. But coming to conclusions that will provide real solutions requires an approach that doesn't ignore the need for realistic analysis and operation according to sound principles.

In conclusion

If a balloon is squeezed roughly, it causes the displacement of air and enlarges the balloon. However, this sort of handling of a balloon can end up causing weak spots that will collapse the balloon eventually. Most balloons aren't meant to be handled that way, any more than the American government is meant to be handled the way our politicians handle it today. If they don't quit putting the squeeze on Americans and ignoring sound principles to further their political agendas, a day is soon to come when their balloon will . . . POP!!!

A three-pronged plan of attack has been leveled against American sovereignty, strength, security, and stability that I believe was conceived in the very pit of hell. There are two things which must be done if we are to prevent the kind of destruction of our republic that I've been describing. First, we must work hard between now and November 2008 to see that more responsible people are voted into Congress and the Oval Office.

Second, since I am persuaded that the origin of the plot is hell itself, I believe we need to cancel our dinner reservations, put on some sackcloth, and begin to pray. (Sackcloth is optional in modern times, but I'm sure you get the idea — this is serious!) Two of the three prongs in this plan of attack have already been approved by Congress, and as I said, stopping the immigration bill will not prevent what I've outlined here from happening — at most it will only delay the onset of some things. Unless something is done about NAFTA and CAFTA, and unless immigration is brought under control, we are in for big trouble.

Rectifying the situation will be no small accomplishment. We need help that can only come from above.

    "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." 2 Chr. 7:14 NKJV

NOTES:

[1]  New American: Inviting Our Own Problems
By Kurt Hyde (Interview), 05–28 — 2007
http://www.jbs.org/node/3943

[2]  RenewAmerica: Preamble to QOTW
Tom Tancredo on CAFTA
http://www.renewamerica.us/forum/?date=050807&a=2

[3]  Wikipedia: North American Free Trade Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAFTA#Impact_on_Mexican_farmers

RenewAmerica analyst Joshua Herring also writes a column for RenewAmerica.

© 2007 Joshua Herring


The views expressed by RenewAmerica analysts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the position of Alan Keyes, RenewAmerica, or its affiliates.




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To: ears_to_hear

Imagine corporations so brazen, that they bring in foreign replacement workers under provisions meant for jobs they can’t fill, who then use those replacement workers to replace Americans doing the jobs for years.

Quisling bastards.


81 posted on 06/17/2007 7:02:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: nicmarlo

I think this is a comforting one that rings true to me:

Perilous Times Will Cover the Earth - Trust Me

Karen Lundquist

reverendkaren@volcano.net

Perilous times will cover the earth. But I say unto My people, do not fear, for you are anchored securely in Me. I will hold you steady and keep you from harms way. I will provide for you, and make a way for you.

People won’t understand how you make ends meet. They won’t understand why you don’t hang your head in fear and trembling. They won’t understand why your eyes sparkle with light in a dark world. Many will turn to you with questions and I will give you wisdom and the word to bring comfort to them.

My people, I have filled you with treasure. My presence is the excellence of the power in you! I have equipped you.

Many are now facing trials. They are burdened and cast down. Even so, many are the afflictions of My people. But I say unto you: fear not and trust Me. Keep your eyes on Me—only Me. Pull out of the treasure within you, for in it you will find all you need. I am with you, take of Me, learn of Me, for My yoke is easy and My burden is light. I am your Sufficient One, I am the only One Who can sustain you and give you peace.

I know when you are troubled, I understand your pain and confusion. But as you trust in Me you will not remain in a state of confusion and fear. Those who trust in Me will walk victorious, they will be given stamina, and will endure, and keep moving forward into kingdom purposes. Trust Me and know nothing will crush you, nothing will take from you, I will bless you in all your ways.

from:

http://www.etpv.org/2007/ptwcte.html


82 posted on 06/17/2007 7:02:37 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: cpforlife.org
Question: Why would a republican administration BE FOR the amnesty of 20+ million brand new VOTING democrats?..

Something does not add up in the logic of republican party officials especially the president....
There is some serious doo-doo on many shoes in the White RINO House..
Most Americans are not even pissed off yet..
But that could change..

83 posted on 06/17/2007 7:02:55 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: sport

I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT STOPING THE HIDEOUS NAU ADVANCING IMMIGRATION BILL

IS A SUPER HIGH PRIORITY.

But their goals in that regard will not be stopped. We can hinder them, slow them—AND WE MUST . . . but do not be surprised at what they pull to establish the NAU.


84 posted on 06/17/2007 7:04:29 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: nicmarlo

Certainly.

Sadly, the prophetic field currently is a very mixed bag of a mess.

I think God WILL BE CLEANING IT UP WHOLESALE but I don’t know how soon. ONe has to be really prayerful and cautious what one reads and more so what one puts any confidence in.


85 posted on 06/17/2007 7:05:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I had just started learning about this stuff in the mid 80’s. Catching a piece here and there. Then in the mid 90’s I finally had the time to do the research needed to get a clear picture of what was happening in Europe and how the plans included the US of A.

What amazes me is how little the timeline has changed.


86 posted on 06/17/2007 7:05:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Check out this website for the National Veterans Coalition http://www.nvets.org/)
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To: Quix
Those who trust in Me will walk victorious, they will be given stamina, and will endure, and keep moving forward into kingdom purposes. Trust Me and know nothing will crush you, nothing will take from you, I will bless you in all your ways.

very nice! I needed to read that. thanks for posting it.

87 posted on 06/17/2007 7:06:01 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ears_to_hear

America’s elite have always liked slavery, and they do not seem to learn from its history.

= = =

YUP.

I suspect they will end up enslaved to their evil desires for endless ages with punishing horrors attached to their greed, power mongering etc.


88 posted on 06/17/2007 7:06:39 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Travis McGee

Quisling bastards.

= = =

Which is infinitely tooooo polite a term, imho! LOL.


89 posted on 06/17/2007 7:07:22 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
he prophetic field currently is a very mixed bag of a mess.

that's another reason why I ever quit bothering to read it/study it....so much speculation, and many didn't seem to align with Scripture.

90 posted on 06/17/2007 7:07:41 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: hosepipe

I think you know, hosepipe

there’s functionally been no effective difference in too many respects in terms of any party.

It’s all been a charade more so than not.

The puppet masters distract the masses with the dance of the parties . . . while they coerce, demand, control all sides to their bidding in a list of ways.


91 posted on 06/17/2007 7:08:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: B4Ranch

And how little the plans have changed . . . refinements but no basic changes the last 45 years.


92 posted on 06/17/2007 7:10:02 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: THUNDER ROAD
I always look at a conspiracy as something planned that no one really knows about and has no facts available to be able to discern the truth, unless, of course the conspiracy is uncovered. In this case, the facts are out there and have been readily available to anyone who wishes to see them. They steps to make this world change have been slowly implemented. Truth is even the people involved in the manipulations are not perfect, they have erred at times. They are after all, just people, people with power and money.

Part of the plan is a slow manipulation of news and facts. It has been designed to mask the truth by using mind control techniques that have worked pretty well.

Just look at us, we all are still more worried about an election that won't mean a damn thing after this bill is signed.

Once that happens, it can't be undone. It will just be too late.

93 posted on 06/17/2007 7:10:54 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: nicmarlo

Certainly . . . I’ve been ridiculed hereon for so many years about such stuff . . . my hide has thickened considerably.


94 posted on 06/17/2007 7:11:20 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: nicmarlo

Certainly one must insure aligning with Scripture.


95 posted on 06/17/2007 7:12:12 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: indylindy

Indeed.

Good points.


96 posted on 06/17/2007 7:13:33 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

I don’t care what people say when they’re yelling out of ignorance. I’m just supposed to “go and tell”. It doesn’t matter to me what they say afterwards.


97 posted on 06/17/2007 7:14:08 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Quix

The thing with the prophecies though is it’s pretty tricky, at least for me, to understand it all...so, I don’t know all the time if something aligns correctly.


98 posted on 06/17/2007 7:18:11 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Quix

I thank you for all your posts and information; I likely won’t be able to “attack” them until mid-week next week; I’ll come seek you out then about any questions or comments I may have. Hope you don’t mind that.

Calling it an evening here. Have a nice one.


99 posted on 06/17/2007 7:22:00 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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Given the issues of this thread, the first one but really all the following are interestingly fitting. THey were in the same file from:

http://www.etpv.org/2007/wotlo07.html

Word Of The Lord 2007

Miles Ford

Arlington, Texas

Carpenter’s Touch Ministries,

www.carpenterstouch.org

(carpenterstouch1@aol.com)

In 2007 there will be a battle over the white house

In 2007 there will be weeping and wailing in Jordan as a child that has lost it’s parents

In 2007 our trade deals with the soviet union shall reveal some unsavory connections

In 2007 there will be two of the greatest corporate mergers in modern history

In 2007 there will be a transfer of power in London, England

In 2007 the war on terror shall be fought on U. S. soil

In 2007 there will be demonstrations and political change in Israel

In 2007 there will be unusual occurrences in the weather and in weather patterns

In 2007 there will be breakthroughs in agriculture that will create tremendous hope

In 2007 there will be new alliances that will emerge in the world. Some will be good for the USA and others will not

In 2007 government corruption will be exposed and prosecuted among the nations

In 2007 there will be a move to establish the united states of America but there will be much conflict & upheaval

In 2007 Iran will be put in her place but she will rise up in several years to attack those whom she calls her enemies.

In 2007 the Hispanic immigrants will continue to fight to be allowed to stay within the us, but the government will establish boundaries to hinder more people from coming in and will create a special system for those who are already here that will consist of several levels.

In 2007 there will be several volcanic eruptions in the states and in the islands.

In 2007 there will be earthquakes of such great magnitude they will cause much devastation.

In 2007 great oil deposits shall be discovered in and near the united states

In 2007 scientists shall discover cures to reverse the spread of several types of cancer

The wearing of tattoos will be a precursor to the fascination that will come towards the end of 2007 with skin scans——where information will be carried & transmitted upon the skin

2007 is the year where the wealth of the wicked will be literally transferred into the hands of the righteous

Prophetic Insights for 2007
Phyllis Ford

For 2007, The Lord spoke to me through God’s word. You will see situations parallel to things that happened in God’s word and if we follow the patterns that were set before us, we will be victorious over circumstances and overcome hard situations with much grace and glory.

The Lord took me to 2nd Kings the 11th chapter and showed the time that the daughter of Ahab and Jezebel (Athaliah) killed off the royal family to secure her position as queen because of pride and the evil intent in her heart. But also tells us how the priest and his wife (Jehoiada & Jehosheba) protected and hid away the child Joash (who was only one year old). And upon the 7th year, the strategies were set in order in the House of the Lord, and Joash was brought forward to be crowned king.

The Lord prophetically spoke and said: I have held and hidden away for six years key people and key strategies in the House of the Lord and now in 2007 these things shall come to past in this time:

The Kingdom of God shall be fully strengthened and established in this hour.

There shall be great confrontation between God’s government and the opposing enemies of this hour and they shall be defeated.

In the last six years we have seen strong Jezebelic systems but now we are about so see the fall of those systems, for they shall be destroyed. Great deceptions will be uncovered amongst false unclean leadership. (Revelation 2:23)

Strategies shall be released and the kings & priests shall work together as one.

Just as Joash was preserved and protected so have many of you been hidden away in the kingdom, now it is time for you to come out. Ministries that we have never seen or known shall rise up in this time and come forth to do a great work before the living God.

This is the “Seventh Year Season” a time perfected and prepared by the hand of the Lord. There will be some tremendously serious events that will take place but know that He has prepared you for this time, for the just shall live by faith.

The Lord said that according to Revelations chapter 3 verses 7-13 that 2007 was the Year of the Open Door (Realm). We shall see the government of God established and grow strong in this time: the year where the rule and reign of God shall be brought and established by those that He shall raise up in this hour (those who have kept His name and have believed upon Him and endured great persecution).

There shall be a great humbling to those who are the synagogue of Satan (that say they are Jews but are not) and from this move some shall come forth to be redeemed, says the Lord, and they shall worship at the feet of His people. For the Lord will vindicate His own.

For they shall be carry and be called “the Name of the Lord”

There has been doors of favor, doors of blessings, doors of opportunity that present themselves during certain windows of time, but I believe that the Lord is going to open our understanding to a new realm in the Kingdom in this time.

There is going to be a shift of leadership at this time: the Shebna’s are out (Isaiah 22) and the Eliakim’s are in.

2nd Kings Chapter 6 verses 24-to the end and 2nd Kings chapter 7

The enemy will try through terrorism to lay siege on the lands, and regions, and people. But we must lift up our prophetic voices and reverse the sieges.

The prophets must rise up and speak against these attacks. They must prophesy against the siege and watch the reversal of the enemies’ stronghold come down.

We must realize that Elisha prophesied and spoke the reversal of an economic meltdown and reestablished the economy of God that the people could survive in. The prophets must be prepared themselves to cry out and prophesy at the gates of the cities and regions and cause change to come forth out of the camps of regions that will be held by the enemy.

It is time for the church to rise and be responsible for the communities that they are dwelling in - crisis management, crisis intervention and disaster relief will be “buzz” words in 2007. And kingdom minded churches will become helping stations for those who are victims of disasters, famine and situations that will befall this land in this season.

The Lord said that London would go through it’s greatest shaking ever. But towards the latter part of the year God would shift London to behold His glory and His grace.

We are entering into a “suddenly season” where things are going to be in state of affairs and then suddenly change and reverse. (There are biblical patterns of this.)

We are going to see a people rise up with a true hunger and thirst for the things of God. Some of the greatest signs and wonders shall be known and unfold in this time. Healing miracles and undeniable miracles will be wrought from the hands of God’s servants. (Acts 19)

Word Of The Lord JUNE 2007

For I say unto my people prepare yourselves and know that I have spoken and I have released the word of my mouth unto you even before the time. For in the month of June there shall come a great storm. The magnitude of the storm that shall come shall impact not only this nation but the nations that are near it as well.

And I shall release a special anointing upon my people in this month of June. This anointing shall be an anointing to quell the effects of all that shall be happening in this time. For I am setting you, that are in the midst of this nation, and I am charging you to go forth in prayer and proclamation and declaration. Ministering into the hearts of those that are here with you.

Your works and your labor are not in vain. I have seen your heart and I impart and release my compassion in an unprecedented measure over you in this season. For you are carriers of life and you shall give that life and that light to those who are in darkness and death. Do not be afraid, do not fear, for I have set you and ordained you for this hour. You shall not fail.

For in the month of June there shall be a great net that I will release. That net shall go out to bring forth the harvest of all of those that have been prepared before hand. They shall come forth into my kingdom. The net shall be the net of my testimony and the net of my compassion, and the net of my divine life that shall flow forth from my people in this hour.

And I shall set at odds the enemies of my people and they shall be one against the other as I accomplish the work which I will accomplish says the Spirit of God. The month of June shall be a month of great focus and my people shall endure. Do not be distracted and do not waiver from the assignment and the mission to which you have been called in this season in this month of June.

And there shall be great apostolic strength that I will cause to be demonstrated during this month of June. As mighty apostles that I have raised up in the earth shall strategically come together. I will release my strategies and I will release my instructions and there shall be action and great faith that shall come forth out of their midst.

For all that I have been imparting into you and that which you have been trained and taught you will utilize in this month of June. Say no more I go to hear another word at the house of God. But from this time you shall say I go to receive another impartation so that I might move forth to walk out and exercise what I have heard unto the building of the Kingdom of God.

There is a voice even in the midst of the storm which shall cause many to believe on the Lord your God. You I have ordained as that voice so do not fear but move forth and declare that which I have declared unto you. For the month of June shall yield forth a harvest of souls ready and prepared to come unto me says the Spirit of God.


100 posted on 06/17/2007 7:35:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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