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Why the Railroad Effort on the Amnesty Bill?
Jawa Report ^ | June 16, 2007 | Ragnar Danneskjold

Posted on 06/16/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

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To: Night Hides Not

The link between massive illegal immigration and terror by Arabs is weak. Twenty or thirty million illegal alien Mexicans wandering around is the problem. But, why is that a problem? and terror isn’t it.


21 posted on 06/16/2007 8:35:28 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: sam_paine

Except that the bill ensures the status quo of continued taxpayer subsidies for the employees of the businesses employing illegals, in fact, it writes such subsidies into law.


22 posted on 06/16/2007 8:35:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: RightWhale
They may be in the phase where Marie Antoinette commented on the lack of bread.

Without a doubt.

23 posted on 06/16/2007 8:36:55 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Yeah, it takes me a while...I'm a lowly English major and not too into business and economics (except for basic stuff), but sheesh...even a blind squirrel can find a nut occasionally.

And this particular nut is getting pretty damn big.

24 posted on 06/16/2007 8:40:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: 3AngelaD
Most of us don't know what is in this bill. We only know that the Democrats want to pass it. That alone should be enough to make any American wary.

The invasion of illegal aliens across the Mexican border amounts to a massive demographic population shift. Our own government is not only encouraging this invasion but will do nothing to protect America against its ravages.

The solution is simple:

1. begin immediately to deport all illegal aliens as they can be caught and apprehended.

2. Impose heavy fines against anyone, person or business, who aids and abets the crime of illegal immigration.

3. Deny any Social Security or Welfare State benefits to non-citizens of whatever national origin.

4. Build a sufficient barrier along the border to keep illegal aliens out of the country.

5. Enforce all immigration laws now in effect.

6. Issue an ID card to all non-citizen.

7. Halt all immigration for 75 years.

8. Allow a time limit guest worker program with proper registration and monitoring systems.

BTW, it’s not true that illegal aliens take jobs Americans will not take. It is true that Americans will not work for the low wages illegal aliens will work for.

25 posted on 06/16/2007 8:40:25 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: truthkeeper

Yes, you nailed it. Everything is supposed to be up and functioning by 2010, so this is their opportunity if the trains are going to run on time.


26 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:14 AM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: 3AngelaD
I love that picture of the terrorist on the airport xray.

That pic sure says it all.

Nam Vet

27 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:21 AM PDT by Nam Vet (Timely reporting from Attila's right flank)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
6. Issue an ID card to all non-citizen.

Simple?

Ihre Papieren, Bitte!

Don't have papers.

Oh, in that case you're okay. Go ahead.

28 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: 3AngelaD
Maybe Bush is looking at the big picture and taking a long view. A VERY long view.
Maybe Uncle George has good reason for wanting as many "Mexican-Americans" here in the USA as possible:


29 posted on 06/16/2007 8:43:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Speak for yourself. I read the thing, and I read the Congressional Budget office report on it, as well as Rector’s analysis. And I’ve been trying to get ahold of the amendments Dirty Harry agreed to allow to be debated next week. I agree with your solutions.


30 posted on 06/16/2007 8:48:18 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

It’s not just big business executives who want the amnesty. It’s millions of small business owners. For example, We just had our roof on an 11 year old house ripped off and replaced by “Home Depot”. Now what Home Depot and Loews for that matter hires reputable firms who do good work and charge the buyer extra for guaranteed longer life. It is a small house, 1680 Sq. Ft. on a mountain with lots of wind, but they had two crews of about 15 guys on the roof together, doing the job for in about 5 hours with a guaranttee of 50 years, translating to the next buyer if that should happen. Also, landscape crews headed by small business owners are almost totally in the gardening/landscaping business in two southern states where we do a lot of business. There’s is not question that Hispanics are very good workers and most of them undoubtedly are illegal. We have friends in the road construction/black top business. They do hire illegals, they earn a good salary. live in modern double wides with nice interiors, drive newer cars, and have their children well dressed and polite.

Cordio


31 posted on 06/16/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by Cordio
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


32 posted on 06/16/2007 8:50:11 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Lancey Howard

P is for pissant. BTW Jeb’s wife is Columba and her dad was a migrant worker. The Wikipedia entry mentions (LOL!) that neither her mother or father was Mestizo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columba_Bush


33 posted on 06/16/2007 8:50:15 AM PDT by dennisw (The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Most of us don't know what is in this bill.

What is in the bill does not matter a whit to the MOTU. Proof is in the fact that they would not even amend it to exclude criminals and scofflaws. What sane being would not vote for that?

No, I have come to the conclusion that the bill is only a MacGuffin. In a nutshell, this was Alfred Hitchcock's term for weird, obtuse turns in the plot that were completely secondary to his main goal of presenting the visual impact and suspense of his movie. Inotherwords, it was difficult to follow where the money was hidden, where the suspect worked, etc. But Lordy...you sure remembered the shower scene, or Cary Grant being cropdusted!

This bill is only a MacGuffin...it is not the goal.
The agenda is a North American Union.

34 posted on 06/16/2007 8:51:00 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: OK

“I think it has more to do with the CFR push to integrate Canada/USA/Mexico into one political unit.....”

BINGO!!BINGO!! If YOU were a huge corporation...would you rather deal with a few corrupt and readily, cheaply bribed
Mexican-type federale official....or a US congresscritter....


35 posted on 06/16/2007 8:51:46 AM PDT by mo
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To: Cordio

I resent paying taxes to subsidize the employees of small business owners as much as I resent paying taxes to subsidize the employees of big businesses.


36 posted on 06/16/2007 8:54:43 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: mo
...would you rather deal with a few corrupt and readily, cheaply bribed Mexican-type federale official....or a US congresscritter...

Neighbor, I believe you are repeating yourself...

37 posted on 06/16/2007 8:55:28 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Lancey Howard

That’s exactly right.

George Bush has had a hidden agenda, on so many fronts, since before he was President.

He is manipulative, disingenuous, and downright sneaky.

And he is a condescending elitist, to boot.


38 posted on 06/16/2007 8:56:07 AM PDT by SerpentDove (If it walks like a lame duck, and quacks like a lame duck, it's a lame duck.)
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To: Cicero
Each party needs the other to blame the fallout on.

Excellent analysis. Quite logical and believable.

39 posted on 06/16/2007 8:56:48 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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