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Why the Railroad Effort on the Amnesty Bill?
Jawa Report ^ | June 16, 2007 | Ragnar Danneskjold

Posted on 06/16/2007 8:02:53 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

We can all understand the push by big business to keep their steady flow of illegal laborers coming in, strengthening their bargaining position against blue-collar working class Americans. Then again, they already have that today in droves. Why the sudden balls-to-the-wall push to get it all "kosher" right now? Mickey Kaus forwards a theory:

Chertoff and Kyl both seem to have answered that question recently, Kyl in his Wall Street Journal interview and Chertoff on Fox News yesterday: because businesses are starting to worry about efforts to enforce immigration laws at the local level. One state in the vanguard of that effort is Kyl's (and McCain's) home state of Arizona, where the legislature has passed numerous laws (usually vetoed) on the issue, and where the public voted for Prop 200 back in 2004.

To me that says something far more ominous than that Congress is being disingenuous or naïve on the matter. Far from simple being empty promises, this amnesty bill is actually a blatant attempt to head off any attempts at enforcement at all.

I think this is probably right. I think big business realizes that voters are going to extract some very explicit and unequivocal promises from their candidates next year. I think they realize at this point that a number of their champions on this bill are not coming back to Washington after the next election.

Big agriculture and big construction realize that they'll be faced with a new Commander-in-Chief, Democrat or Republican, who will likely have made a list of unequivocal promises to the voters during the campaign. Given the opportunity to build up public goodwill with a series of big, high-profile immigration busts in her first six months of office, does anyone think that President Hillary would pass it up? If she's anywhere near as calculating as her reputation suggests, there's not a chance she'll pass up that opportunity.

A Republican President would feel less need for high-profile token efforts, but may bring in a Justice Department that actually cares about national security. (How crazy would that be?) If you're an employer who's been skirting the law for years with a wink and a nod, this change in the winds has to be keeping you up at night--with good reason. Some CEOs looking at public opinion polls and knowing their employment rolls haven't been even close to right with God, have to be dealing with some serious heartburn at the thought of angry villagers at the corporate gates demanding massive fines and/or a few years in federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

If the employers can just get across the line on this, they've significantly reduced their exposure. This Amnesty Bill represents a sort of "get out of jail free" card for these executives. Whether it'll actually work out that way is another matter. They see the writing on the wall, and they're pulling out the stops to protect their own hides, even if they have to wreck their own country to do it. Of course, jamming this piece of sh*** down our throats only adds to the long list of reasons we're already pissed as hell at the employers and their elected cronies.

This may be your time, fellas. You may have the upper hand now. The men in power are your boys, and you may get them to vote how you like, even against the clear will of the people who sent them there. Enjoy it while it lasts, but don't forget it for a second: our time is coming. You have the cash, but we have the numbers. A whole lot of us have damn long memories. We're gonna remember every bit of this sordid ordeal. And payback, as they say, is a bitch.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cheaplabor; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; pitchforkpat
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To: just mimi
On other threads, there are indeed lists of these corporations.

Freepers can find almost anything!

101 posted on 06/16/2007 1:05:42 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: 3AngelaD
My conspiracy theory is that Bush and Kennedy have become drinking buddies. Yes Bush must be back on the bottle.
102 posted on 06/16/2007 1:07:15 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: ml/nj
What was wrong for "big business" with the status quo. (assuming arguendo that "big business" is hiring these folks) If illegals are paid less than legals for similar work, and the bill eliminates the illegality, it would seem to me that the number of underpaid workers will decline drastically.

If you are running a big enterprise, you cannot now use illegals to directly replace (and compete with) the relatively highly paid citizens in higher positions because you need reliability. Illegals could be arrested at any time besides opening the organization to legal risks and liabilities.

The boomers are all retiring - there are fewer workers and more wage pressure diluting profits. Bring in more competition and your worker drones are forced to compete much more desperately.

Mass layoffs are only partially successful because they are so disruptive. Why not do it more subtly and incrementally?

103 posted on 06/16/2007 1:14:33 PM PDT by mbj
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To: Guenevere
It's what many of us fear. Desperate times require desperate measures, and these are definitely times that "try men's (and women's) souls."

For now, we can only continue to do what we have been doing, but double our efforts. I believe that answers...and hopefully solutions...WILL come to us.

Have faith, sweetie.

104 posted on 06/16/2007 1:16:42 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: potlatch; All

You are on NEWS VIEWS

http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2007/06/with-likes-of-slimy-harry-reid-reed.html


105 posted on 06/16/2007 1:16:57 PM PDT by FARS
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To: wideminded

bttt


106 posted on 06/16/2007 1:18:46 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: truthkeeper

bttt


107 posted on 06/16/2007 1:20:19 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: devolve; FARS; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; Lady Jag; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...

WOW, I love it!! I didn’t know if others would ‘SEE’ what I saw in my mind from that hilarious Peanuts cartoon!


108 posted on 06/16/2007 1:33:17 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: dragnet2

Yeah. So? We are not at war with Mexico.


109 posted on 06/16/2007 1:43:21 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: 1035rep; 1curiousmind; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; 68skylark; AdmSmith; airborne; Alamo-Girl; ...

Freeper graphic skills also being spread worldwide.

http://alanpetersnewsbriefs.blogspot.com/2007/06/with-likes-of-slimy-harry-reid-reed.html


110 posted on 06/16/2007 1:47:43 PM PDT by FARS
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To: ktvaughn

It is interesting to note that Big Corporation owns FedGov. This is a true fact. FedGov is Constituted for the purpose of furthering commerce and the XIVth Amend gave Corporations the rights of legal persons including, strange to think of since the Civil War had just been fought to eliminate ownership of persons, the right to own legal persons in the case of other Corporations. Very confusing, no?

As to Mexico, the USA de facto owns most of it. It is third world in the sense that registering property is difficult and expensive so isn’t done generally, but where NAFTA applies, for the world of Corporations, private property and private property rights exist. If you are a Corporate Attorney you are on top of the world unless you are asleep.


111 posted on 06/16/2007 1:54:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: 3AngelaD
"this amnesty bill is actually a blatant attempt to head off any attempts at enforcement at all."

This makes sense. George Bush has made it clear that he has no intention of enforcing U.S. immigration laws or closing the Mexican Border.

112 posted on 06/16/2007 2:03:33 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: Guenevere
are we entering a time of lawlessness?

Not by a long shot. We are in a period of ignoring laws passed down from our legislatures but obeying laws rising from the community itself, which is the natural way law evolves. You will find that your neighbors have certain standards of behavior, just as you do. That is the functional law.

113 posted on 06/16/2007 2:04:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: RightWhale
Yeah. So? We are not at war with Mexico.

That was never implied or suggested. However since you brought it up, considering the damaged and violence that continues to be wrought on this country it might not be a bad idea to flex some muscle and at least threaten the corrupt Mexican government with sanctions or even force if necessary.

Or we can just continue on our current course and watch our borders be completely eliminated, making citizenship all but pointless, changing the very course and direction of America, permanently changing our rule of law based society and our Constitution.

At this point in the game, our choices are clear, and very limited

114 posted on 06/16/2007 2:24:40 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Guenevere
if this passes, are we entering a time of lawlessness?

It's already occurred.

As a matter of fact, a government that will not protect it's sovereign, legitimate borders, will itself eventually become illegitimate.

115 posted on 06/16/2007 2:27:42 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Sprite518

Yes, he is back drinking.

There was a photo of our President drinking a so-called non-alcoholic beer. There is no such thing. Even “non-alcholic” beer contains some alcohol.

So, it is true that Bush has started back drinking. And it shows.

I pray he doesn’t crater before his term is up. Seriously.


116 posted on 06/16/2007 2:32:30 PM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: RightWhale

Kinda reminds you of that old quote “what’s good for General Motors is good for the USA”.


117 posted on 06/16/2007 2:33:23 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Savage Beast

The federal government has for the past 30 or so years done an unacceptable job of enforcing our immigration and depotation laws.

We all knew it. We just didn’t know how adversely it was going to affect us. Now we know.


118 posted on 06/16/2007 2:34:47 PM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: i_dont_chat
I pray he doesn’t crater before his term is up. Seriously.

Well, how much damage could he do from a locked-down psychiatric ward?

I have a theory that just came to me...Bill Clinton was desperate for a legacy and got Monica. We all know that Bush is smarter than Clinton...I submit to you that he is now BUYING a legacy from the liberal historians and media with this amnesty. Anyone care to dispute this?

119 posted on 06/16/2007 2:37:44 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 ("You know," he says, "I haven't spent a dime yet." FDT, June 9, 2007)
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To: RightWhale

Invasions don’t have to be “armed”.


120 posted on 06/16/2007 2:45:27 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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