[primeval patriot]

Not quite my friend, read the arguments when we took in all of the Vietnamese, yet today there is a poor population that votes democratic, but a larger population who started with nothing yet are now successful, well educated professionals or business owning republicans who would fight to their last breath for this country. There is always a gut response to oppose that that we are not familiar with - to protect, yet our country always comes through these times stronger and more productive. Something has to be done and politics as it is now cannot produce a solution any of us will fully agree with - I think where we go wrong is in saying nothing can work - if we learn from the past failings and make sure that what we do now will at least help address the primary security issue, then we have to make lemonade with the lemons we don’t like. You cannot get a 100% win, but if all you do is complain and oppose you are the conservative equivalent of Harry Reid. Do you really want to bury the Bush, Kyl version of this and wait for The Pelosi-Reid version to get shoved down our throats instead. You think some of the RINO’s won’t vote with them - guess again. If we can get improved borders, a true ID/employer verification system, we may have to live with some of the rest as these will help a lot. If you play cards, you will never win by folding every hand because maybe the next one will be a perfect winner.

Partisan rubbish.

You sound like a robot.

[politicals]

I guess I prefer sounding like a robot than what you sound like to me. Robots do tend to make unemotional correct assessments of problems that can seem nearly impossible. Thanks for the vote of confidence!

On the partisan rubbish front - sounds like another Harry Reid answer, nothing productive, pure negativism.