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To: Hawk1976
All I can saw is walk in the other man’s shoes - if a law is not enforced, should it be respected? Do you think Mexico educates their citizens in US law? How many foreign countries do you know the details of their immigration or border laws?

Mexico - a dump - well parts are for sure, but is 100 years of corrupt rule with few very rich and many very poor possibly a cause? Can in individual citizen change a corrupt government? Have you seen the destruction of Venezuela in just the last 10 years?

Mexico has voted twice for the more conservative - pro business leader, but regardless of good intentions, change can be very difficult when much of the rest of the government is still run by the socialists and the corrupt families. You could get the hint when Mexico’s equivalent of Al Gore (Lopez Obrador) tried to declare the last election invalid and tried to take over through protest. In case you didn’t notice, it DID NOT succeed, so there is progress.

We are the ones responsible for our border, a far more organized, more powerful and more free country, but yet YOU have not kept the border safe. We all might like to, but we have families, jobs and businesses.

259 posted on 06/15/2007 1:31:26 AM PDT by politicals (Fred Thompson/Condi Rice2008!!!!!)
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To: politicals
All I can saw is walk in the other man’s shoes - if a law is not enforced, should it be respected? Do you think Mexico educates their citizens in US law? How many foreign countries do you know the details of their immigration or border laws?

How many foreign countries distribute "comic books" instructing their uneducated, indigent citizens on how to break the laws of another country? According to Mexico since our borders are not enforced they should not be respected. Yea, tell that to Ramos and Campean.

Mexico - a dump - well parts are for sure, but is 100 years of corrupt rule with few very rich and many very poor possibly a cause? Can in individual citizen change a corrupt government? Have you seen the destruction of Venezuela in just the last 10 years?

Can in individual citizen change a corrupt government?

Can 12 to 20 million citizens change a corrupt government? The answer is "YES" as the U.S. is becoming a nation without the rule of law. Yes, our government is corrupt moreso than many thought.

Lopez Obrador was painted as the liberal candidate by the U.S. press and our "conservative" hahahahahahahaha readers on FR. Obrador wanted to do away with or rewrite NAFTA. He wanted Mexicans to stay in Mexico. We can't have that now can we. We must do what G. Bush tells us to do and think how Bush wants us to think. That is the Harvard way.

280 posted on 06/15/2007 7:18:11 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: politicals
All I can saw is walk in the other man’s shoes - if a law is not enforced, should it be respected? Do you think Mexico educates their citizens in US law? How many foreign countries do you know the details of their immigration or border laws?

If a government can not or will not enforce it's laws, should it be respected? Whether or not Mexico educates their citizens on any topic is no concern of mine. When those same citizens choose to go to another country, it is their responsibility to educate themselves about requirements to do so, the responsibility belongs to no one else. If I choose to enter a foreign country, I will also choose to obey it's laws, it's called common courtesy.

Mexico - a dump - well parts are for sure, but is 100 years of corrupt rule with few very rich and many very poor possibly a cause? Can in individual citizen change a corrupt government? Have you seen the destruction of Venezuela in just the last 10 years?

One person can do a lot for good or ill. It merely takes the will to do so. Mexicans need to take care of their corrupt government, not violate our laws then demand our "respect".

Mexico has voted twice for the more conservative - pro business leader, but regardless of good intentions, change can be very difficult when much of the rest of the government is still run by the socialists and the corrupt families. You could get the hint when Mexico’s equivalent of Al Gore (Lopez Obrador) tried to declare the last election invalid and tried to take over through protest. In case you didn’t notice, it DID NOT succeed, so there is progress.


Mexico, no matter the muttered platitudes of who ever is in power at the moment, will never change. There will always be corruption. In Mexico no one seems to care. Obrador thought he was more immediately politically stronger than he was, this was his major mistake.

We are the ones responsible for our border, a far more organized, more powerful and more free country, but yet YOU have not kept the border safe. We all might like to, but we have families, jobs and businesses.


Incorrect. I charged my, and your, agent, the government, with the responsibility of maintaining the border. The exact reason I as why should a government that for whatever reason does not enforce it's own law be respected. A country with a government in such a state is either in anarchy or slipping into it.
382 posted on 06/19/2007 2:05:20 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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