Victor Davis Hanson: Gaza -- It’s All Our Fault - Blaming America on CNN is all the rage.

National Review Online ^ | June 14, 2007 | Victor Davis Hanson

[Karliner]

Hmmm, let me get this straight, the muslims alledgedly hate each other and kill each other in greater numbers( i.e. Iran? Iraq war, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Egypt...etc).

Hamas is killing the Fatah and it's all America and the Jooos fault

Al Fatah is holed up in a palestinian refuge camp in Lebanon and the Lebanese backed Hizbollah meatheads slam the cr*p out of the camp and it's all America and the jooos fault.

Syria is awaiting for the jooos to retaliate because they now have warheads with gas locked and loaded ....at the joooos.

Iraq is mostly the American's fault but it's most probably them nasty jooos too.

Iran is planning to bomb the jooos into oblivion, dumping men and weapons over their borders to kill Americans in Iraq/ Afghanistan and what's left of our weak kneed allies. And the world goes shopping.

The fight stretches from the Philipines to Europe....when WILL THEY WAKE UP?

Our own courts and the laws being passed regarding hate speech are being reworded for the muslims...the religion of lies, no peace,and all out war and aggression on any religion aside from their own....and the jooos( of which I am a messianic Jooo)

Russia is begging to get in the fray as their allies and supply routes end up in Iran, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Tunesia, Northern India, etc.... Despite the name change Putin is still KGB...

I'm certain I've missed a hundred items, but this summer is going to be bloody. One step closer to Ezekial ch 38, 39.

So why is the world so silent? Why are we rushing to such extremes and allowing the escalation of full scale war while the talking heads rationalize dumb rhetoric? I will NOT walk silently to the gas chambers as my relatives did. This is bigger than the world now. This is their god vs YHVH ! But until that time comes stand ready fellow infidels because a "....Hard rain is gonna fall..." ( Bob Dylan)

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[Tolik]

from here: http://victordavishanson.pajamasmedia.com/2007/06/16/crazy_world.php

Bakerism

The solution we adopted for Gaza? Pressure Israel to make “concessions” to give Fatah symbolic stature to allow it some legitimacy to outscore Hamas. But Fatah has no stature because it was always a whiny plutocracy (cf. those hilltop mansions on the West Bank, thanks to Western bribes and “aid”). We were told that Fatah, a corrupt has-been of aging terrorists, was preferable to younger, purer, Islamic jihadists like Hamas—never realizing that because it was marginally “better” did not make it anything near “good”, in the sense that Mussolini’s fascism was not as bad as Hitler’s Nazism. Note again that none of the Iraqi war critics will apply their own nomenclature to this mess—like “civil war” or “hopeless.”

Can’t be True.

Hamas has a “military wing,” the Izz el-Din al-Qassam Brigades? I thought Hamas itself was the militant wing of the Palestinians? Can a militant wing have a militant wing? Apparently in the way a terrorist clique like Fatah can be threatened by a terrorist clique like Hamas to the point of now becoming “moderate”.

As they loot and kill in Gaza, someone no doubt will (a) now at least assure us this is a civil war, (b) that it took place because someone disbanded the … what? Palestinian authority?

Hamas apparently has inherited quite a stockpile of American weapons from a now defunct Fatah (cf. the most recent $60 million given by us for “security”)? Apparently we thought that if we poured diesel, rather than gasoline, into the conflagration it would not fuel the flames.

Our policy?

The Palestinians have bisected their country for us. The overcrowded, filthy and desolate Gaza is to be the Islamic republic of Hamas, while the larger, less miserable West Bank goes to what’s left of Fatah. We will apparently deal with Fatah West Bank and isolate Hamas Gaza, and this will no doubt by analogy give impetus to those who wish to trisect Iraq. But watch Gaza—it will soon become Afghanistan light, as Iranian and Syrian money pour into it, and Egypt keeps clear and smiles at the ensuing blood sport with Israel.

And why should Hamas be content with miserable Gaza when the losers may keep losing?

Remember Hamas’s birth: the swindled Palestinians thought they would send a message to the corrupt Fatah by electing Islamists, some perhaps not quite thinking anyone would allow them to be really governed by such killers. But democracy, even in its reptilian form in Palestine, is unforgiving, and you live with what you vote for.

Anti-Americanism British Style

“Why we must break with the American crazies” or so writes London Times columnist Anatole Kaletsky, who goes on to cry about the old bogeyman of a neo-con conspiracy et al. that has ruined the world in Lebanon, the Middle East, Iran, and Iraq (always wise to blame the US rather than the jihadists who are doing the killing).

But I tend to agree with Kaletsky that some sort of polite distancing is necessary between us and his kindred in the post-Blair era. As we speak, British academics and journalists are boycotting Israel. Apparently such British elites see a culture of murdering and racism preferable to the democracy in Israel.

Note too that a Hamas leader Ghazi Hamad was recently feted in London as the guest of the Guardian and was courted by British elites. That London has entire apartheid communities of angry young Islamists and many of them eligible as British subjects to piggy-back on bilateral transportation agreements to travel into the US, likewise make Kaletsky’s ideas of polite distancing somewhat palatable. Whatever the UK is doing in terms of immigration and integration in London, the US should do exactly the opposite. So who exactly are the real “crazies”?

In my limited experience, most of the animus in the partnership comes from the UK and is a mish-mash of aristocratic disdain for our rabble culture, left-wing anger at our “cutthroat” society, general British angst about loss of empire and envy of the US, and special furor with the Texan, bible-quoting George ‘smoke-em out’ Bush. Whether Mr. Kaletsky likes it or not, a new neo-isolation is coming, and the next time the UK and Europe have a crisis—remember the litany from the Falklands to Soviet nuclear tipped tactical missiles to Milosevic killing thousands a few hours from European capitals—I doubt there will be any American public support for much of any US intervention.

And we know now the default British position when pressed: cf. the EU3 collapse in talks with Iran; or the British response to the Iranian piratical attack on its gunboat; or the ongoing withdrawal from Iraq. No need for any anger on either side about any of this, just a fact that trashing the US is so commonplace that it has finally hit home with most of us.

I once had dinner with a British officer, and after a pleasant conversation of about 2 hours, I remarked “This is the first time I’ve dined with a Tory and not heard something about “those Jews”. He laughed and said, “The night is still young.”

The Samson Complex

Democrats may well take the Presidency next time. And with both houses of Congress they’ll change course. But what good will all that do if they pull down the house in the process? If Nancy Pelosi triangulates by going to Syria, that does not mean that the Democrats won’t have to deal with a murderous regime in Damascus that interprets such fawning, as we just saw with the latest bombing, as a blank check for more serial murdering in Lebanon?

And when Harry Reid calls commanders in the field “incompetent” (cf. his remarks about Gens. Pace and Petraeus) and the surge a failure before it has fully unfolded, what will that mean when a Democratic Commander-in-Chief might well have to work with that same military to keep us safe? What will they do on the morning after a 9/11 event? Blame whom? The military that will be called on to save us? The CIA and FBI and other intelligence agencies that they claim trampled our freedoms?


Imagine

I often think had Scooter Libby, like Richard Armitage (who really did disclose the non-covert status of Valerie Plame) just been a Hamlet-like figure—voicing tortuous doubts about the war, and upon leaving the administration, castigating those who did not listen to his wisdom—he would have been free of his relentless Inspector Javert.

And had Paul Wolfowitz likewise had a change of heart and “deplored” the war, would the Euros on the World Bank really have gone after him for supposedly icing a good deal for a girlfriend?

In contrast, had pro-war Joe Wilson come back from Niger claiming that Saddam really was interested in yellow-cake (and he, in fact, was), and then lied on the pages of the NY Times, while his newly converted neocon wife claimed she was outed by a war critic, would either be current popular victims?

 

[Rummyfan]

In Gaza it’s our fault because we have not been involved sufficiently.....

In Iraq, it’s our fault because we have been overly involved.......

[metesky]

Got the hardcover signed by Horowitz when he came up here to UMO a couple of years ago. Seems like a real down to earth guy.

Had a great chat about weapons with his bodyguard, a former NYPD detective.

[Cementjungle]

Why anyone would trust muslims CNN is beyond me.

[roses of sharon]

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[metesky]

Most people don’t believe the religious aspect of this whole scenario. They wouldn’t die for their god, so they have a hard time believing that others would willingly kill them and die for their false god.

[hershey]

‘Pathology of victimhood.’ That’s it in a nutshell and it’s evil. Thank you, VDH.

[hershey]

Excellent book!

[metesky]

VDH sounds PO’d. I like that.

[mimaw]

I never watch CNN and won’t. Exception will be to watch live coverage of Ted Turners funeral. Hope it won’t be too long.

[Karliner]

Most people don’t believe the religious aspect of this whole scenario. They wouldn’t die for their god, so they have a hard time believing that others would willingly kill them and die for their false god.

True, but since the beginning of this madness it's been a religious war on their( muslims)part as most of America wants it to just be secular and most or israel is athiest as so many feel God has abandoned them after the 6 million plus cries for help back in WWII. The world needs to understand this is more than just a war of terrorism...it's a war against Allah vs the God of the Bible. We're all considered infidels according to them. Maybe it's not politically correct but,".... I calls it as I sees it."( as Colonel gramps used to say)

[FierceDraka]

America to blame for that mess? Oh, friggin' please...

If blame is to placed on any non-Arab nations, it should be on Britain and the Soviet Union.

With apologies to my British friends, Britain was given responsibilty over that part of the defeated and dismembered Ottoman Empire at the end of World War I, and created the Palestine Mandate that eventually became the State of Israel after World War II.

And with no apologies to Russian scum, the Soviet Union exploited Arab resentment of Israel, and trained bloodthirsty thugs like Yasser Arafat and his ilk in the ways of terrorism and media manipulation, in an effort to recruit allies against the West.

Honestly, if it wasn't for the oil under the Arabian sands, this conflict would get about as much attention as the atrocities that happen on a daily basis in sub-Saharan Africa.

But the civil war in the Palestinian territories also goes to show that when Arabs don't have an external enemy to terrorize and murder (due to the Israeli fence), they inevitably turn on each other and return to their "time-honored traditions" of rape, plunder, and cutting each others' throats.

[FierceDraka]

Russia is begging to get in the fray as their allies and supply routes end up in Iran, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Tunesia, Northern India, etc.... Despite the name change Putin is still KGB...

Russians are scum, and are not to be trusted. EVER.

After the end of the Cold War, I held hope for them to re-join the civilized nations.

But they always revert to type - cut-throat, devious Vikings with an inferiority/superiority complex who will make deals with the devil to try to gain more power.

Not at all dissimilar to our Islamist enemies.