[ClancyJ]

What happens when those “cheap laborers” are made citizens with the President’s signature? Then they are no longer “cheap labor” - they are minimum wage citizens.

Is that why we have to have an additional 400,000 each year - for cheap labor?

I work in a church benevolence room and today we had 4 brand new immigrants show up - probably just coming over the border.

I would imagine that the borders are flooding with all trying to get the whole clans in here before the bill is passed.

What I resent is that the government allows the cheap labor to come, none of the families are able to exist on that salary with 6 children, so the churches have to provide food to feed them.

To me this is pushing the cost of labor onto the members of churches in our society and on to the taxpayer by draining the entitlement programs. Cheap labor? For who? Only the employers - not the taxpayer, not the churches.

And we full well know that the purpose of this is to allow the democrats and probably the hopeful republicans to buy votes.

[George W. Bush]

To me this is pushing the cost of labor onto the members of churches in our society and on to the taxpayer by draining the entitlement programs. Cheap labor? For who? Only the employers - not the taxpayer, not the churches.

Now you see the purpose of the "Faith-based Initiatives". This has been the plan all along. Your mistake was in not perceiving that this is deliberate, it was planned.

The labor and materials in church charity, even if partially funded by government, represent ... wait, can you hear it coming ... more cheap/free church labor to subsidize all the foreign cheap/free labor. And to leave the citizens too exhausted to protest and to place church members in conflict with their clergy if they complain about such a cynical misuse of the churches by the government.

It's all one set piece. It always was, from the very beginning. And the federal role in NCLB is part of it. And good ol' Teddy Kennedy is the major player and architect of all of these programs.