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Bush got behind a proposal to set aside money collected through fees and penalties for tougher border security and workplace enforcement. Two Republican senators, John Kyl of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, have proposed such an amendment.

They finally admitted it, this is a bill to raise revenue for the treasury.


ARTICLE I
Section 7.
Clause 1.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

1 posted on 06/14/2007 9:20:58 AM PDT by michigander
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All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

That's obviously news to our pols...

2 posted on 06/14/2007 9:22:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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LIAR
3 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:06 AM PDT by justanotherfreeper
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Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security

yeah.. that’s the ticket. /me heads for the koolaid dispenser


4 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:08 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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``We're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept,'' Bush said

AND that's EXACTLY WHY we DON'T WANT IT JORGE............

8 posted on 06/14/2007 9:24:08 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (My House is Guarded By A Shotgun 3 Days A Week.... Guess Which Days.)
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Uh, huh. “Read My Lips.....” Bull$hit, GW!


9 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:37 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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I don’t believe El Presidente.


10 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:45 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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Its all for show. The President talks a good game but I don't believe him for a minute. Where's his Administration been on enforcing our immigration laws for the past six years? AWOL! DUH

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security
I'll believe it when I see it. Not only the President but also SECHLS Chertoff and others in the Administration as well the "wayward" Senators need to re-vise their dimwitted ill-conceived ways ... publicly.
12 posted on 06/14/2007 9:25:58 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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"They finally admitted it, this is a bill to raise revenue for the treasury."

The "set-aside" is a SPENDING bill. The "illegal immigrant amnesty" bill itself contains revenue-raising provisions--not this one.

13 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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“Bush said the measure would ``show the American people that we’re going to do our jobs of securing this border once and for all.”

Sounds fair, Mr. President.
Start fulfilling your constitutional duties, particularly, to defend us from foreign invasion by actually enforcing our immigration laws, and in a year or so we’ll talk about a “guest worker program”.
But lo siento, no promises . . .


14 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:09 AM PDT by tumblindice
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Remember the 1986 bill?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

15 posted on 06/14/2007 9:27:24 AM PDT by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for President in 2008! SEE: http://www.teamtancredo.com/)
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I heard Tony Snow on Laura Ingrham’s show this morning. Laura pointed out that we the people don’t trust government anymore so Snow used Reagan’s “Trust but verify” line.

Basically he said we should allow them to do what they want and then we’ll have a chance to verify that they were telling the truth. The only problem is that once it’s done it’s done and if they’re lying (they are) there won’t be anything we can do about it.


16 posted on 06/14/2007 9:28:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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President Bush: "Listen up dummies. We got a new plan."

Yah.

17 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("Global warming" and "Climate Change" are the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated by confidence (wo)men!)
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Prove it GW. Enforce current law and build the fence that is currently authorized by you.......


18 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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I ain't buying it.

Fence, deport, jail employers and landlords of illegals.

Do all that and do it well and then I may have some confidence in your intentions Mr. President. Not before.

19 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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Heard this statement earlier, so he will fund the border fence that was approved last session and that he also signed, as long as the senate amnesty bill passes?

Oh, and the senate bill has to pass or the so called fees to pay for it will never be collected. What a crock, how about funding and building the fence and border security before any other bill is even considered?

I am starting to concur with others on this board that The President doesn't really care about Americans anymore. What American in their right mind would want to destroy their own people and take their country and party down in the process?

20 posted on 06/14/2007 9:29:38 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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“Bush Pledges Tougher Border Security”

...pledge all you want! Polish your pledge with “Pledge”. Say the pledge of allegiance. Swear on you childrens eyes. Cross your heart. Sign an affidavit. I DON’T, NOR WILL EVER AGAIN BELIEVE YOU!! YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, ARE A LIAR! ONCE A LIAR, ALWAYS A LIAR! And NO I’m not a troll. I’ve volunteered for Reagan/Bush Sr/Kilgore/George Allen. W can pound sand!


21 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:14 AM PDT by albie
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W. has jumped the shark. It happened, for me, when I realized that my response to this thread was “I don’t believe you, Mr. President”.


22 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:23 AM PDT by Pete (My kid sister's first novel: Far Horizons at http://www.amazon.co.uk/)
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Sure, Bush has made lots of pledges and pledges like promises are made to be broken. Sorry I no longer trust or believe this administration and find that I must now rethink my past support.


23 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:37 AM PDT by engrpat
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This is about as good as the time they proposed offering $100 checks to taxpayers to "compensate" for higher gasoline prices.

To hell with Bush and to hell with the incumbents.

24 posted on 06/14/2007 9:31:05 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis ~ No Amnesty for Incumbents * WAHOO WA! ... UVA2009 * Fred Dalton Thompson 2008)
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