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Early Europeans likely sacrificed their own
MSNBC ^ | 6-11-07 | Heather Whipps

Posted on 06/13/2007 4:21:13 AM PDT by Renfield

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I think that this is wild speculation on the part of the archaeologists.
1 posted on 06/13/2007 4:21:17 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Paleolithic ping.


2 posted on 06/13/2007 4:21:48 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

Not unlike what today’s democrats want to do.


3 posted on 06/13/2007 4:24:27 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (It's never a good time to get sucked into an evil vortex.)
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To: Renfield
Am I going to die?


4 posted on 06/13/2007 4:28:43 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: Renfield

That explains it!


5 posted on 06/13/2007 4:29:34 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: SlowBoat407

Actually, it is what Muslims do TODAY, not 26,000 years ago.


6 posted on 06/13/2007 4:32:38 AM PDT by Beckwith (dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Renfield

I think it is speculation fuled by an agenda that has nothing to do with science.


7 posted on 06/13/2007 4:34:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Renfield

Culling....a bit of un-natural selection.

Maybe this is why early explorers of the Americas found these acts so horrific.


8 posted on 06/13/2007 4:40:36 AM PDT by wolfcreek (AMNESTY: See what BROWN can do for you..)
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To: wagglebee; Coleus
Investigating a collection of graves from the Upper Paleolithic (about 26,000 to 8,000 BC), archaeologists found several that contained pairs or even groups of people with rich burial offerings and decoration. Many of the remains were young or had deformities, such as dwarfism.

We do the same thing these days. It's just sanitized with genetic testing and phrases like *quality of life*; and *properly* dispose of the remains instead of burying them.

9 posted on 06/13/2007 4:41:41 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Renfield
Early Europeans likely sacrificed their own

At least they allowed them to be born, first.

10 posted on 06/13/2007 4:42:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble (We don't need to know what Cho thought. We need to know what Librescu thought.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I think it is speculation fuled by an agenda that has nothing to do with science.

Once again GMTA.

11 posted on 06/13/2007 4:44:00 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Renfield
I think that this is wild speculation on the part of the archaeologists.

Probably, but most of what we know started out as a hypothesis based on meager initial evidence and wild speculation. Sometimes it finds support in later finds and becomes a larger more accepted body of theory, ie. look at the current fight over the current "wild speculation" on pre-Clovis peoples in America.

As for this article, from what I've read of examinations of human remains from the paleolithic, and contemporary observations of existing primitive cultures upon their modern discovery, I would speculate that among stone age cultures, the existence of ritual sacrifice at least some point in their early development would be more expected than not.

12 posted on 06/13/2007 4:44:05 AM PDT by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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To: Beckwith

Actually, it is what abortionists do TODAY, not 26,000 years ago.


13 posted on 06/13/2007 4:49:17 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Renfield

Human sacrifice, by whatever rationalization, has at some time or another been included in EVERY religion, no matter what its origin. Some have been more attuned to sacrifice in greater numbers, others to only a specific few, but the practice is not at all rare.

For one thing, martyrs seem to have a great deal of moral authority, when they appear to challenge the existing code of ethics, and there is need to establish a new principle.

For another, sacrifice is a way of atonement for past sins that have been against authority and the conventional wisdom. There is always a rationale for putting some members of any society to death, or ordering them into situations in which death is the likely result. Religion, when it is also the government, is very much a part of that ethic.

And like it or not, EVERY government that was ever formed, has at its foundation, religious authority first, if only as a place to form the basis of governance through reaction to an existing religion. Eventually the civil authority itself becomes the religion.


14 posted on 06/13/2007 5:09:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Choose carefully the hill you would die upon. For if you win, the view is magnificent.)
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To: Renfield; SlowBoat407; jpsb; Theodore R.; singfreedom
"Europe's prehistoric hunter-gatherers may have practiced human sacrifice,..."

Rather like World War I (one) and its ramifications.

15 posted on 06/13/2007 5:11:01 AM PDT by ProCivitas (Truth and Justice are Conservative.)
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To: Renfield

Right. The idea of 2 members of a tribe dying of measles or pox and being buried together is too fantastic for archaeologists.


16 posted on 06/13/2007 5:17:46 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: metmom

“The new findings could mean the hunter-gatherers were more advanced than once thought.”

Human sacrifice is advanced?

Mrs VS


17 posted on 06/13/2007 5:27:29 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Renfield

“The diversity of the individuals buried together and the special treatment they received could be a sign of ritual killing, said Vincenzo Formicola of the University of Pisa, Italy....”

or they were firm believers in multi-culturalism! ;-)


18 posted on 06/13/2007 5:30:16 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Too principled to support Bush)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
Human sacrifice is advanced?

It strongly indicates the existence of a religious belief system, and the grave goods, depending on what they are further indicate a belief in an afterlife. This is more sophisticated than a group of hand-to-mouth hunter gatherers as it requires, and probably increases, an organization of practice among the members of the group.

19 posted on 06/13/2007 5:38:50 AM PDT by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $150 on native Linux games. Who wants my business next year?)
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To: MichiganMan

There was already evidence of grave goods and ritual even without human sacrifice.

Mrs VS


20 posted on 06/13/2007 5:52:02 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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